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by rroyce10
Nov 05, 2004 (9:28 am)
**For my money, I would rather keep my cash (tax return or whatever) and spend the extra $47 each month rather than pay the $2000 up front** ......
 
                    Bingo.!
 
          14,000+ posts .. and finally we have our first genius .. he's right.!
 
                          Terry.
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Re: Out of Pocket expenses [jerhot] by kirstie_h HOST
Nov 05, 2004 (11:40 am)

Replying to: jerhot (Nov 05, 2004 9:18 am)

jerhot, that was an excellent explanation of your philosophy. Hopefully, you're taking that tax return or other cash and earning equal to or more than $5 interest per month!
 
Thanks for taking the time to write all that out.
 
kirstie_h
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Re: Out of Pocket expenses [kirstie_h] by kyfdx HOST
Nov 05, 2004 (11:48 am)

Replying to: kirstie_h (Nov 05, 2004 11:40 am)

Even if he has the money in his mattress, his points are good ones.. Any money you put upfront on a lease is at risk, if the car is totaled or stolen.. $5/mo. is a small price to pay to avoid that risk.
 
Another advantage of leasing, is you can see exactly what your car expenses are.. When you put down a large amount upfront, you are just "muddying the waters".
 
My rule of thumb is 1st payment and security deposit only at signing.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Out of Pocket expenses [kyfdx] by kirstie_h HOST
Nov 05, 2004 (12:41 pm)

Replying to: kyfdx (Nov 05, 2004 11:48 am)

Sorry, didn't mean to diminish the value of putting $0 down for $5 extra/month. But you could reap the benefits AND break even!
 
kirstie_h
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Re: Out of Pocket expenses [kyfdx] by slocko
Nov 05, 2004 (1:22 pm)

Replying to: kyfdx (Nov 05, 2004 11:48 am)

okay guys, I understand that you shouldn't put any cap cost reduction money. that was never my question.
 
my question is if you put everything into the payment, will you have to pay finance charges and does gap insurance cover it?
 
that's all. just wondering if the dealer is trying to get me to lease a higher amount so he can look better and I pay more in interest. i have no problems rolling taxes because in NJ I don't pay any finance charges on that. But if I roll in deposit, first payment, dealer fees, registration, will it be financed? I rather pay those up front and not pay any interest since I have the money. but if you don't have to pay any interest on it, then i am 100 percent with you guys.
 
The 1800 out of pocket covered acqusition fee, doc fees, first payment, deposit, and registration.
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Re: Out of Pocket expenses [slocko] by kyfdx HOST
Nov 05, 2004 (1:29 pm)

Replying to: slocko (Nov 05, 2004 1:22 pm)

Well.. they are basically loaning you all that money (cap cost) on the car.. so, the dealer gets paid, and the taxes get paid, and the bank gets the acquisition fee.. After all that, the money is basically a lien against the car... so, yes, if you total it, all will be covered by GAP insurance.. Good deal, huh?
 
And yes, you do pay finance charges on anything that isn't paid up front.... But, on most leases that is anywhere between $0.50 and $2.50 per thousand per month.. So, roll $2K into the lease and it will cost you $1.00-$5.00 per month, depending on your money factor.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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E320 vs 530i lease comparison by dale5
Nov 05, 2004 (2:50 pm)
Hello everyone... need advise. I have test driven both the E320 and the 530i and enjoy both even though both cars are totally different. Question is what should I expect with negotiations as it relates to bottom line price, monthly lease (36,000 3 years, 53K MSRP for both)and any additional incentives? 2005 models living in Illinois
 
Thanks,
Dale
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Nissan 350z by st7
Nov 05, 2004 (3:46 pm)
Car_Man, Thanks for the all the information you provide in this forum - it really helps level the playing field.
I'm considering the 2005 350z roadster (touring).
Do you have the base money factor and 24/36 month residuals (12k/yr)? Any idea if Nissan may come out with a year end incentive?
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2005 Pathfinder LE by erikcrago
Nov 06, 2004 (4:39 pm)
Hello Everyone - I'm at the end of my lease on a 2001 Pathfinder and I'm about $2,000 in milage overages. I've negotiated a new lease on a 2005 for about $465 per month with $550 down and they will take my 2001 and I won't owe anything. However, the buyout on my 2001 lease is $17,300 and they're selling some like it for $21,000 on the lot. I don't want the hastle of buying it, then selling it, then doing a lease, and I don't want to pay the overage, so this deal seems pretty good to me. Has anyone else run into a situation like this? Anyone seen prices for a 2005 lease? 12K miles year, 39 months, $17,350 residual.
 
Thanks!
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erikcrago by steine13
Nov 06, 2004 (5:28 pm)
"However, the buyout on my 2001 lease is $17,300 and they're selling some like it for $21,000 on the lot."
 
No they're not. They're ASKING that, for the next guy who is $2,000 buried, like you are. Or $4,000. So don't feel bad, sounds like they're doing ok by you...
 
-Mathias

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