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Re: Re: Dodge Durango lease [Car_man] by kenv3
Oct 20, 2004 (3:45 pm)

Replying to: Car_man (Oct 20, 2004 3:54 am)

Car_man
 
Thanks for the information and advice. The demo model has all the options I was looking for so I may have to re-think doing another lease. It may work out better if I can get the cost down to purchase the vehicle and take a schedule 179 deduction as this vehicle is being used for business.
 
If I do stay with another lease do you think the 2005 incentives will increase to the 2004 level by the end of the year. I still have two months left on a 39 month Pathfinder lease so I do have some time before needing to make a decision.
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Re: Re: residual and money factor [Car_man] by bpd196
Oct 20, 2004 (4:16 pm)

Replying to: Car_man (Oct 20, 2004 9:22 am)

This is what they have offered. This should be a pretty good deal, right? Does the 1300 down include the taxes or do I have to pay them up front or are they included in the payment? sorry for all the questioChris- Best lease is 42 months.
 
MSRP=30,710; Invoice=28,243 + 42 for wheel locks =28,285. Sale Price $28,385
 
NMAC Money factor = .00105 (must have recent previous NMAC loan or lease); Residual (12,000 miles)=56%; Bank Fee=550;
MV=322 (as of 10/04, 4 years must be paid in advance); Doc fee=95; Tire tax=7.50.
 
42 Months 12,000 miles / year $331.74 with $1,306.24 due at inception.
 
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04 or 05 crv ex lease - 36/15k [Car man] by mvp2be
Oct 20, 2004 (4:25 pm)
Looking into leasing a honda crv in Hawaii.
 
This past month my friend got a 04 crv lx 2wd.
purchase price $21590
36 mo / 12k
$0 down
$325 monthly
residual val = $9790
 
at this time money factor is unknown.
 
I am looking into leasing a '05 crv, not sure of model yet. Do you know if there are any leasing incentives this month for crv models? Thanks in advance.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Honda Pilot lease - NY Resident [Car_man] by eagwheels
Oct 20, 2004 (5:03 pm)

Replying to: Car_man (Oct 20, 2004 4:00 am)

Very helpful information. You are helping me gain the needed control over my negotiation. I am trying to determine where I should steer the lease discussion. Based on what you communicated, it sounds as if the .00146 MF(3.5%) rate is competitive, and probably not much opportunity here??
However, related to the residual, while I have also learned that the spread between the ex & exl was 2 points higher, a dealer quoted me lower residuals then you referenced and a more favorable MF. I was quoted a MF of .00146 and EXL residual of 61% and EX residual of 63%. Is the residual % subject to negotiation? If I can hold the MF constant and get the 2% higher residual, I believe I lower the monthly payment about $15 (depreciation charge $17 a month offset by $2 higher interest over the 36 months) Also, how much room do you think I have on the $31,135 selling price?
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Re: 2005 Passat GLX lease by Car_man HOST
Oct 21, 2004 (3:29 am)
Hello jpm. There is a vital piece of information missing from your post, this car's selling price. The selling prices of leased vehicles can be negotiated, just as if you were paying cash for them. This is an important number to know because without it it is difficult to tell what sort of deal you are getting and it is impossible to calculate a sample lease payment without. Afterall, you wouldn't pay cash for this car without knowing what you were being charged for it. I would be more than happy to work up a sample lease payment and let you know what I think of the one that you were quoted for this Passat for you if you let me know its price.
 
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Re: Re: Approval by the board by Car_man HOST
Oct 21, 2004 (3:30 am)
Thanks for the helpful info, anonymousposts .
 
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Re: Re: Leasing Fees, etc. by Car_man HOST
Oct 21, 2004 (3:32 am)
Enya18, American Honda Finance Corp.'s current 3 year, 15,000 miles per residual value for a 2004 Acura TSX without navigation is 57%.
 
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Re: Re: Re: Dodge Durango lease by Car_man HOST
Oct 21, 2004 (3:36 am)
You're very welcome, kenv3. I suspect that the incentives on the 2005 Dodge Durango will be higher by the end of this calendar year, but I personally doubt that they will reach the level of support that is currently being provided on the 2004 model. It is difficult to predict what automakers will do with their future incentives with 100% accuracy, but I don't think that we will see that much support on the '05 Durangos until at least mid-2005.
 
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Re: Re: Re: residual and money factor by Car_man HOST
Oct 21, 2004 (3:43 am)
Bpd196, the "$1,306.24 due at inception" that you were quoted for this lease probably includes your first month's lease payment, a security deposit of that payment rounded up to the nearest $25 increment (unless it is being waived), NMAC's lease acquisition fee of $550 (unless is is being included in your vehicle's capitalized cost), and any sort of down payment that you make (ideally one should not make any sort of cap cost reduction when leasing). How tax is calculated on your deal varies depending upon what state one is in. If you let me know where you are I may be able to give you some information on how tax is calculated on leased vehicles in your area.
 
The lease money factor and residual value that you were quoted are right on the money. Using these numbers, an MSRP of $30,710 and a selling price of $28,385, I estimate that this vehicle should have a 42 month, zero down, pre-tax monthly payment of right around $315.
 
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Re: 04 or 05 crv ex lease - 36/15k by Car_man HOST
Oct 21, 2004 (3:51 am)
Aloha mvp2be. Hawaii is not known for having the most competitive prices on vehicles because of the lack of competition there. I guess that is a small price to pay for living in such a beautiful paradise. Honda is not currently providing any sort of lease support on the 2004 CR-V. As a result, if you were to lease one through its captive finance company, American Honda Finance Corp., you would have to use its standard lease money factors. Its current 36 month base standard money factor is .00250 in the continental U.S. I believe that this is its base factor in Hawaii as well. I would be more than happy to calculate a sample lease payment on this truck for you, but in order for me to do so I need you to provide me with its full MSRP.
 
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