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Re: Question about used Gap Insurance [saints75] by jforjames
Sep 19, 2008 (4:12 pm)
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Replying to: saints75 (Sep 15, 2008 6:47 pm)

Some states require refunding (typically pro-rata) on Gap coverage...others do not. I would ask for the refund and, if denied, request that the dealer cite the state law or regulation that allows them to sell non-refundable coverage...
 
Dealer's hate to give refunds. If you look at your loan agreement, whatever price you paid for gap coverage, figure the dealer kept 60-80% of that amount.
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by saints75
Sep 19, 2008 (6:50 pm)
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Thanks for the info.
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Re: Question about used Gap Insurance [jforjames] by jagar100
Oct 02, 2008 (5:58 am)
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Replying to: jforjames (Sep 19, 2008 4:12 pm)

Is there any advantage to purchasing the dealer's loan gap coverage over the insurance company's? Insurance companys only charge a few dollars, compared to the hundreds of dollars the dealers charge!
 
I was told by a dealer once, that the ENTIRE loan balance would be paid for by loan gap, even if you were upside down on a vehicle. Meaning, if there was a balance from the other vehicle that was tacked on to your new loan, he is saying that loan gap would pay ALL of it. Is this true???? I know that insurance loan gap will not pay finance charges, overdue principals outstanding or penalties of leased vehicles, etc. I can't take his word for it, and he could not provide it in writing since I was not buying a car, I was only calling to inquire.
 
Also, when leasing vehicles, isn't lease gap included now?
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Re: Question about used Gap Insurance [jagar100] by fandiguy
Oct 02, 2008 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: jagar100 (Oct 02, 2008 5:58 am)

The dealer was correct. GAP purchased through the dealer will pay off the whole loan up to $60000 (depending on provider of course). That includes all finance charges, previous loan balance rolled in, etc. It pays off the WHOLE loan, and pays your deductible up to $1000. The insurance company gap may seem like its cheaper, but once your loan is paid off, they will still charge you. The policy seems cheaper because they just add it to your premium on a monthly basis, its usually the same if not more, than the dealerships. And also, it won't pay off 100% of the loan and will NOT pay your deductible. 99% of the time, its a better deal to use the dealerships GAP. As far as i know, GAP is built into pretty much every manufacturer lease.....well those that still actually offer leases!! Oh, and banks limit how much a dealership can charge for GAP, usually around $600, but like anything else its negotiable how much YOU want to pay.
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Re: Question about used Gap Insurance [fandiguy] by wlbrown9
Oct 02, 2008 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: fandiguy (Oct 02, 2008 6:57 am)

There was some discussion of GAP limits in some group months ago. IIRC there was a limit over the MSRP that the GAP would cover. So, if that were the case, you could not roll an unlimited previous balance in, and with the credit crisis will we see less of that happening in the future anyway? My guess is yes.
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Re: Question about used Gap Insurance [wlbrown9] by fandiguy
Oct 02, 2008 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: wlbrown9 (Oct 02, 2008 7:53 am)

Thats true, some companies limit the amount over MSRP they'll cover. The company i use will cover up to $60,000 in negative equity, as long as the bank approves the advance, they'll pay off the loan. With the credit crisis, banks are limiting the amount over MSRP they'll finance on trucks and suv's; 110% for A+ credit is what i've been seeing the last couple days. Thank god for big rebates and incentives.
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Re: Question about used Gap Insurance [fandiguy] by tedebear
Oct 02, 2008 (1:33 pm)
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Replying to: fandiguy (Oct 02, 2008 6:57 am)

The insurance company gap may seem like its cheaper, but once your loan is paid off, they will still charge you
 
After the loan is paid off why can't someone just call their insurance company and tell them to cancel the GAP insurance?
 
When I bought my car a year ago the finance manager tacked on GAP insurance for an additional $599. I went home and discovered that my car insurance company offered it for $6/mo. I went back the next business day and canceled the dealership's coverage.
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Re: Question about used Gap Insurance [tedebear] by fandiguy
Oct 02, 2008 (2:01 pm)
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Replying to: tedebear (Oct 02, 2008 1:33 pm)

You can cancel it from your insurance once the car's paid off, but years after adding it most people forget it's there.
 
$599 is what the dealer charged, $6 a month is what your insurance charged.....for how many months. Gotta compare apples to apples. Did the insurance company offer to waive the deductible if you ever used it? The coverage varies from company to company (dealership and insurance provider) so its hard to tell which is the better deal sometimes.
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Re: Question about used Gap Insurance [fandiguy] by dtownfb
Oct 02, 2008 (5:15 pm)
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Replying to: fandiguy (Oct 02, 2008 2:01 pm)

C'mon fandiguy. you went from accusing someone of comparing apples to oranges to now you comparing oranges to apples....
 
You charge $599 for GAP insurance (which is useless the last year and half of a 60 month loan) and add it to the monthly car payment so they are paying it the entire length of the loan. So the actually cost of the GAP insurance is $599 plus the interest rate over the length of the loan. And of course you can't cancel it or people simply forget it's there. At least with your insurance company, you can cancel it at anytime, like the last two years of the loan when equity of the car may be greater than the amount owed (of course this depends on the car, loan amount, interest rate, down payment, etc).
 
Quite honestly, if your insurance company offers GAP insurance, it is a much better bargain than what the dealership offers. GAP insurance is like extended warranties, it's for people who are looking for peace of mind. Nothing something I would ever buy but I can understand why people buy it.
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Re: Question about used Gap Insurance [dtownfb] by fandiguy
Oct 03, 2008 (5:30 am)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Oct 02, 2008 5:15 pm)

Ok, i had to read your post several times to understand the point you were trying to make.
 
You charge $599 for GAP insurance (which is useless the last year and half of a 60 month loan) and add it to the monthly car payment so they are paying it the entire length of the loan. So the actually cost of the GAP insurance is $599 plus the interest rate over the length of the loan
 
There is no way to determine the value of a car 4 1/2 years out, so thats an assumption on your part. It never ceases to amaze me how many people are obsessed with the tiny interest charges on this amount of money. "I'll put it into a high-yield cd, etc, etc, etc." I'm so glad everyone has a plan to become millionaires by investing the charge of extended warranties and GAP policies, because interest on that amount of money is HUGE!!!
 
And of course you can't cancel it or people simply forget it's there
 
What?!?! I think i know what you were trying to say. You can go to the dealership at anytime and cancel GAP. Did you read the original post i was responding to when the poster said he cancelled the GAP policy he purchased at the dealership?
 
Quite honestly, if your insurance company offers GAP insurance, it is a much better bargain than what the dealership offers. GAP insurance is like extended warranties, it's for people who are looking for peace of mind. Nothing something I would ever buy but I can understand why people buy it.
 
The value would depend on the cost and coverage levels. If i sell you GAP for $200, now the dealerships GAP is a better value then the insurance companies-everythings not so black and white, there's a gray area. You're entitled to your opinion, but if you finance a car with no money down or trade equity, GAP is a no-brainer. Even a biased site like edmunds will usually agree with that.
 
Just like with warranty's, if someone who doesn't have GAP totals a car and the insurance company won't pay off the loan, now they're the "evil insurance company."

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