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Re: Something rattling in my head... [cccompson] by joel0622
Aug 10, 2007 (5:01 am)
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Replying to: cccompson (Aug 09, 2007 4:38 pm)

Which brings up a related question: What (if any) kind of money does the F&I guy make on a zero percent loan through the manufacturer's finance arm?
 
FMCC pays a % of the amount financed. For example if you finance $30K on 0% FMCC would pay the dealer $$160.65, on my pay plan my part would be $3.14. Not exactly a wind fall, but we don't really depend on finance reserve for income any more. It will soon be a thing of the past any how IMO, with banks paying straight flats. Where I earn my income is through the sale of Service Contracts, GAP, Lojack, and Tire and Wheel warranties. 0% helps me to sell those plans because it does not effect the payment as much and the folks who usually wait to buy the ESP just before there factory warranty runs will buy it at point of sale so they can include it in there 0% loan.
 
It took me awhile to embrace the low rates but I like them now, and they help me do my job better.
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Re: Something rattling in my head... [joel0622] by 1racefan
Aug 10, 2007 (5:27 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Aug 10, 2007 5:01 am)

"Where I earn my income is through the sale of Service Contracts, GAP, Lojack, and Tire and Wheel warranties."
 
Curious - In the past, I have had the F&I guy offer to reduce the vehicle price I had already agreed to with the salesman, if I would agree to buy an extended warranty from him. When F&I guys do things like this, does it hurt the sales guy?
 
In other words, I assume you would make the commission off the warranty, but the sales guy's commission would suffer from you having lowered the price to entice me to buy the warranty. If my assumption is correct, doesn't this cause a rift between sales and finance?
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Re: Something rattling in my head... [1racefan] by joel0622
Aug 10, 2007 (5:31 am)
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Replying to: 1racefan (Aug 10, 2007 5:27 am)

Curious - In the past, I have had the F&I guy offer to reduce the vehicle price I had already agreed to with the salesman, if I would agree to buy an extended warranty from him. When F&I guys do things like this, does it hurt the sales guy?
 
That F&I guy should be fired, or the management team that is telling him to do it needs to take a long hard look in the mirror. Yes he is stealing from the sales person and obviously sucks at what he does if he has to resort to to that to sell a Service Contract.
 
Management teams that don't get the fact that we are nothing with out our sales force never cease to amaze me.
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Re: Something rattling in my head... [joel0622] by 1racefan
Aug 10, 2007 (5:36 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Aug 10, 2007 5:31 am)

You confirmed my assumption.
 
The only benefit of the doubt I was giving the F&I guy was that maybe there was more total gross in the deal with the warranty, and that the sales guy got a little bit of a kick back from that as well, but I doubted it.
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Can the dealership make me resign? by hmeadows
Aug 12, 2007 (4:37 pm)
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I bought a vehicle on Friday 8/03. I had arranged financing myself, but the dealer offered to match my interest rate if I just went through them so I did (I realize now this was a mistake). I took care of all the paperwork at that time. On Wednesday 8/08 the dealership called me and said I needed to come back and sign some new paperwork. They told me it was because they could not get me the interest rate we had agreed upon. I was in another state and told them there was no way I could come there and that I was not resigning for a higher rate.
 
They have not paid off my trade in yet. Can the dealer make me come in and resign my contract (I live in Georgia)? The purchase price wound up $1000 higher than what I was approved for on my own so I cannot use the "check".
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Re: Can the dealership make me resign? [hmeadows] by kirstie_h HOST
Aug 13, 2007 (7:52 am)
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Replying to: hmeadows (Aug 12, 2007 4:37 pm)

Your only other option (that I know of) is to return the vehicle and take your trade back home with you.
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Re: Can the dealership make me resign? [hmeadows] by joel0622
Aug 13, 2007 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: hmeadows (Aug 12, 2007 4:37 pm)

Can the dealer make me come in and resign my contract
 
have a Lawyer, hell it don't even have to be a lawyer, just let one of your friends who can pull it off call and tell them that they represent the law firm of Jones and Jackson and that have been retained by you, blah blah blah, you want a copy of the signed subject to form blah blah blah.
 
Now with that being said, if you signed a Subject To form you may have a problem.
 
Why can't you just take them the check from your bank like you originally planned?
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Re: Can the dealership make me resign? [hmeadows] by qbrozen
Aug 13, 2007 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: hmeadows (Aug 12, 2007 4:37 pm)

as kirstie said, no they can't make you resign.
 
if you tell them, "fine. i will drive the car back to you. it will have 3000 miles on it by the time i get there, and please have my trade-in ready for me to drive back home." I BET they will find a way to make the deal stick as is and you will have nothing to worry about. They don't want a new car back with that many miles because they will take a bath trying to resell it to someone else. So stick to your guns and they will make the deal happen.

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