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#304 of 309 Cup Half Empty vs. Half Full by hpmctorque

Jul 08, 2008 (5:20 am)

I thought I'd share a little wisdom, obvious as it may be to most of you, because in this case the obvious resonated with me, and has guided me on my purchases of used vehicles.
 
several years ago I was extolling the attributes of a car I was considering, and really wanted to own, to a co-worker, justifying the bid I was about to make to the seller, largely on the grounds of the repair records the seller showed me. I was impressed by the number of items and components that had been replaced or repaired. My colleague suggested that I put that aside, and focus, instead, on what the car needed. Duh! While I hadn't ignored the needs, I realized I was being seduced by how much the current owner had spent on the car. A thorough evaluation of the cars needs prompted me to walk away. Since that time, when considering a purchase, I've zeroed in on what the car will require, not just to pass inspection, but to avoid being nickeled and dimed after the purchase.
 
Oh, the car I walked away from was a '97 Passat V6. Not exactly the paragon of reliability.

#305 of 309 Re: Cup Half Empty vs. Half Full [hpmctorque] by isellhondas

Jul 08, 2008 (3:33 pm)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Jul 08, 2008 5:20 am)
Had you bought that Passat you probably would have added another three inch stack of repair orders within a short time.
 
You dodged a bullet!

#306 of 309 Re: Cup Half Empty vs. Half Full (isellhondas) by hpmctorque

Jul 08, 2008 (4:25 pm)

Yeah, as I walked away from that cosmetically like-new, black, sharp looking car, I asked myself "what was I thinking?"

#307 of 309 Re: Cup Half Empty vs. Half Full [hpmctorque] by loosenut

Jul 08, 2008 (6:33 pm)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Jul 08, 2008 5:20 am)
you're right..they try to impress,or are they trying for sympathy?when they tell how mutch was spent on their "lawn ornament",
..it's like when i used to clean up used cars for dealers...it doesn't matter what you did,or how long it took-what they do see is what you DIDN'T do..
..how many cars on craigslis say"new motor-needs transmission",or vice versa..?
it's what you still have to do to make it move-as that's what it's main function is,despite the set of gold plated 22's ,or the fuzzy dice-those things won't get you home on a cold rainy night..

#308 of 309 Re: Cup Half Empty vs. Half Full [hpmctorque] by andre1969

Jul 08, 2008 (6:50 pm)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Jul 08, 2008 5:20 am)
My colleague suggested that I put that aside, and focus, instead, on what the car needed. Duh! While I hadn't ignored the needs, I realized I was being seduced by how much the current owner had spent on the car. A thorough evaluation of the cars needs prompted me to walk away.
 
I went through a similar situation a few years ago, with a 1980 Chrysler Cordoba. It had originally been a slant six car, but the driveline had been replaced by a built-up 318 out of a '75 Dart, torqueflite 727 out of a smallblock '68 Charger, and an 8 3/4 rear end, also out of the Charger, with relatively quick 3.23 or 3.55 gears. It was a sweet looking car...in the pictures, at least. In person, not so sweet. Plus, the brakes went out on it.
 
Most of the sheetmetal was actually pretty good, but the plastic rear fender caps were broken, and a lot of the structure underneath was rusting...and these were unit-bodied cars! The interior was a bit moldly, and smelled of dampness.
 
But man, did that thing sound sweet when it fired up! I was definitely tempted! Luckily, I came to my senses. The seller wanted $1900 for this thing. And on the bright side, he offered to tow it to my house.
 
I really am glad I passed on the thing, in retrospect, because less than a year later, I found my '76 Grand LeMans on eBay, and bought it. It's not a perfect car, but was good enough to make the 500 mile trip back from Ohio, and has consistently made it back and forth to four GM shows in Carlisle. And it would need a lot less to make it perfect than that Cordoba would have!
 
Had I bought the Cordoba, I have a feeling I never would have gotten the LeMans, so sometimes things have a way of working out.
 
One thing that I find funny about the two, is that while they're both the same basic class of car, an intermediate coupe, the LeMans is actually the smaller of the two. Despite the LeMans being an old school, pre-downsized intermediate and the Cordoba being "downsized", and actually based on the Aspen/Volare, which were considered compacts! The LeMans is 208" long, on a 112" wb, while the Cordoba was about 210", on a 112.7" wb. Not a huge difference, to be sure, but I guess that shows one reason why Chryslers weren't selling. GM comes out with a downsized intermediate, and they seem downright tiny (for the time). Chrysler comes out with a downsized intermediate, and it's about the size of a Caprice.
 
Gotta admit though, I still have a thing for those Cordobas, and especially the Mirada. I just want one that's in better shape than that thing I saw four years ago.

#309 of 309 Re: Cup Half Empty vs. Half Full [andre1969] by fintail

Jul 08, 2008 (7:21 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 08, 2008 6:50 pm)
I still remember the Mirada CMX owned by a friend of mine's mother when I was in grade school. It was white (I want to see a pearly white but I don't know if that's correct) with t-tops and mag wheels etc. It seemed like an unusual car even then back in the mid 80s, when it wasn't very old. I remember it was rarely driven, they must have thought it was something special. Can't remember the last time I saw one like it on the road.

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