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#23 of 32 Pricing question
Nov 05, 1999 (12:55 am)
I have found a 1978 Mercedes 450SL in fair condition with 161,000 miles. The owner has the original hard top with an aftermarket rack, and the only addition to the car that I could find was a Cellular phone antenna on the rear deck. The top was dropped on it during a wash job, effecting two noticeable scratches that are offset to the left as the top dropped. Those are the only noticeable scratches, and are easily repaired. The badges about the automobile are a little loose, but I can easily fix it. What concerns me is the asking price. He wants $9500, and his son slipped up and told me he is selling it because there were several shop visits made and the owner wanted to divest himself of it before the major bills mounted. I know this car will be expensive to maintain, but I intend for it to be a weekend driver only. What do you think would be a fair price to pay for this car?
Nov 05, 1999 (2:23 am)
About $5,000, because you'll have another $5K in it before you can say "161,000 miles and somewhat neglected? What was I thinking?" (slap forehead once at this point).
This car has got to be risky...while sturdily built, and with an engine of excellent reputation (I don't ever remember one losing the bottom end), still at 160K it is possible that top end (valve) work is coming up, and that can be devastatingly expensive. Also, the 450SL has very poor a/c, handling which is definitely not of "sports car" caliber, and is a known gas hog in the 12-13 mpg category. No sense putting up with those things AND nursing a sick car too!
Might I suggest that you find the best and cleanest and lowest mileage example you can (they are not scarce nor are they a top drawer collectible--which is good news for you), and pay the $12,5K market price for a nice, nice car. This way you can enjoy the car's excellent built quality and its attributes of leisurely cruising in the GT style, without biting your nails every time you hear a noise. If you can't find a low mileage car, I would only consider a 160K mile car that had a fully documented service history. If the car has not had oil changes every 3,000 miles, you might inherit the problems that come from careless service on this car.
And if you want the best of the old V-8 SLs, see if you can find a 560SL--it's a much improved car over it's older brothers.
#25 of 32 Classic cars
Nov 29, 1999 (4:01 pm)
You can find a good classic car classified site at http://www.findsales.com . It is easily navigated and has lots of cars and pictures.
Dec 06, 1999 (9:35 pm)
Well, the cabs will set you back a bundle, but you can still buy the coupe for a very reasonable price, as older MB coupes generally don't bring high dollars...with sharp shopping you could land a nice one for around $20,000, a third the price of a restored cabriolet.
This model is a very pleasant ride and a good-looking car. If you'r willling to settle for an older 6-cylinder 250SE coupe, you could get something for $10,000 in nice shape, and it doesn't look much different than the 3.5 coupe.
#27 of 32 Mr. Shiftright
Dec 07, 1999 (2:22 am)
Thanks for the info. I think, at this time in my life, that the coupe will be the ticket. I actually think it's prettier than the cab, but the idea of a convertible is cool. I've heard the small V-8 is quite a reliable engine. Again, thanks.
Jan 12, 2000 (6:55 pm)
Let's switch this question to the appropriate topic and I'll be glad to advise you. It very much depends on what your present investment is in the car, which you can relay to me in private if you wish via e-mail. Unless you bought it cheap I think you should bail on this car right away.
Here's the link to the "Is It Worth Restoring?" Topic
#29 of 32 Worth Restoring a 280 SL?
Oct 12, 2000 (10:23 pm)
It's unfortunate that you didn't have a qualified appraiser look it over before your bought. I'm not sure what you paid, but 280 SL's are in $25 to 35 K range for exc ellent cars with 2 tops, automatic and a/c (aftermarket). Average cars are $15,000 to $20,000 with decent mechanicals and straight bodies. A rework of a badly rusted body and good paint can easily run up to $10,00 plus. If you paid $10-12K you might be OK if the engine, trans and rear end are healthy.
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#30 of 32 58 CHEVY NOMAD 4 dr STATION WAGON: Sale???
Jan 04, 2001 (6:19 pm)
One of my freiends has a 58 Chevy Nomad 4 door station wagon. Due to major illness they have to sell her. What is best way or best site to get the best price for this. She has new two tone green exterior paint, and new green interior. Was in a movie recently and she is in the Universal City area.
Jan 04, 2001 (6:24 pm)
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#32 of 32 GOOD GM SITE
Mar 01, 2001 (3:20 pm)
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