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Aug 02, 2000 (10:12 pm)
I think part of the "passion" is among younger drivers, to whom the older cars and their history don't mean much...as one might expect generation to generation. Also, I think new cars are much more aggressive than older cars (excepting the really brawny musclecars) and hency the arguments are more agressive as well.
Aug 03, 2000 (6:34 pm)
I'm new to your conference, so I'll start off with the cars that I own and would like to own.
I have two "oldies": the first, owned since 1969, is a 1964 Galaxie 500XL convertible, peacock with black interior, white top. Going back to the 70's, I almost threw the car away (east coast rust) but decided to hang on to it, since thay had just stopped making convertibles.
I cosmetically restored the car, and, I have to say, it is a head turner. But....
The car has the typical Ford rust underneath, but still runs fairly strong and tight, for a convert. It has a 352-4v 250HP, 3.50 rear. The body has 205,000 while the motor has over 90,000. The original trans (auto) was rebuilt at 170,000; no complaints there.
My second car, purchased in 1989 for $4,000, is a 90% original, second owner, 58 TBird hardtop (no lies-the first owner was a 93 year old lady who hadn't started the car since 1985.) Car has original dealer paperwork showing the cost, options, and the credit ($700)she and her husband received for trading in their 1950 Nash). The car is white with a blck/white interior.
Here's the real kicker. She told me that she and her husband really wanted the two seater, but missed being able to order a new one by few weeks!!
I've replaced the dashpad, changed the tires, rechromed the back bumper, and replaced the front seat covers. Under certain conditions, especially around dusk, the white square bird really stands out.
Motor's never been apart, but has a blowby problem, especially while cruising at highway speeds. No rust whatsoever, but car has been repaired and could use a good paint job. How far do you think I should go with this car before I'm just dumping money down the drain?
In the past, I've owned a few interesting cars: 1957 Chev Bel Air 4dr hardtop, 283 powerpack, three speed Hurst, 4:11 rear; 1968 Merc Cyclone GT 4sp 302 4V; and a 1965 Vette 327 300, two tops, Nassau blue in and out (purchased new); 1985 black TurboCoupe. (Sold the Vette in 1966; big mistake.)
Last month, while in Manchester NH at a street car show, I saw a car that almost got me to take the plunge for a third oldie: a 1970 Merc Cyclone Spoiler GT. 429 4v, orange with black interior, 4sp, shaker hood. Asking $16,500.
Don't get me wrong; I love the GM muscle cars (GTO's, 442's Chevelles; etc) but there's still a lot of them out there. How many Cyclones (or Torino Cobras/GT's) do you see? Even though they may not be as fast as the GM counterparts, we're not purchasing these cars to dragstrip, so who cares about one or two car lengths?
Sorry for the long winded introductory.
#79 of 86 On younger drivers
Aug 03, 2000 (8:22 pm)
I agree with the comments about younger drivers, but for the record, some of us youngsters still have the love for carbs and running boards.
Now I freely admit that I am not your typical youngster - I was racing cars in England at 16, and karts before that. I guess a lot of my passion for the old comes from a very English working class background, where cars had to be maintained and kept running because the money wasn't there to replace them.
Now that I am in North America I am learning a healthy respect and admiration for the North American cars of the 50s, 60s and 70s - cars that I never saw in my own youth.
So whilst I am often the youngest at car meets, I for one will take my Jag over a Lexus, and will still get more excited about an E-type than an S-type, an Alfa spyder than a Toyota spyder (or Renault spyder for that matter).
I'll be 29 later this year.
#80 of 86 A basic question
Aug 23, 2000 (2:12 pm)
Does anyone know how old a car has to be in Canada to be considered a classic? My great aunt gave me her 1981 Olds Omega (not really "classic" material) and I was wondering when it would be classic.
It has only 80000km on it and a little V6 so it can keep up with traffic.
Not bad for my first car at all.
Aug 23, 2000 (4:28 pm)
True "classics" are 1948 or older, so you've got a wait, and even then it's probably not going on the list. Real "classics" are very special and very rare cars.
However, I believe in most states in the US your car can wear a "collector" car license plate after 25 years, so perhaps Canada has a similar arrangement. This doesn't make the car worth any more, but at least it gets recognition for having survived 25 winters!
Aug 24, 2000 (2:06 pm)
a car becomes immune from emissions tests at 20. Don't think it is entitled to classic plates though - I have only seen a few of them, and can't think of anything post-war that had them.
Aug 24, 2000 (3:29 pm)
Here you can get historic plates for a car when it's 25. I'm not sure how old a car has to be to be immune from the emissions test, though. I had to put a 1979 Newport through emissions in 1997, and a 1986 Monte Carlo in 1998. That was the last time I went through the emissions test, but at the time, I think 1976 and older cars were exempt. And not all parts of MD require the emissions test, I found out. The Monte Carlo was given to me by my mother. All the year the car was in St. Mary's co., it never went through a test. I had it about 2 months when the notice came in the mail. (I live in Anne Arundel Co.)
Does anybody know if police cars are exempt from the emissions test? I have a 1989 Gran Fury, that I've had for just over 2 years, and haven't gotten a notice on it yet.
Dec 22, 2000 (1:01 am)
According to the CCCA, classics are cars built from 1925-1948. I don't aspire to this definition but they can define their club however they want. The 25 year rule is out to lunch too. A 1973 Granada will never be a classic, not now, not in 2073 when it's 100 years old
(no offense to any Granada owners out there).
Dec 22, 2000 (11:11 am)
No, police cars have to have the same emissions equipment as any other car.