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#6930 of 7122 Re: . [ateixeira]
Feb 07, 2013 (12:12 pm)
I don't recall "crossover", but I wasn't at the edge of my seat for a Toyota commercial. I'll keep an ear out, though.
How car like is the first kind of roly-poly RAV or CRV though, really? Almost seem like small JDM trucks than real cars.
Feb 07, 2013 (1:06 pm)
They weren't sportier than the Cherokee and Sportage, they were more comfortable, liveable.
Back then the trucks has buckboard rides and your head tossed side to side. You tolerated that to get 4WD and a wagon body, but there was much room for improvement.
They also weren't meant for off roading, but you could run over a speed bump and not spill your coffee. Or get around in the snow.
#6932 of 7122 Re: . [ateixeira]
by kyfdx HOST
Feb 07, 2013 (4:38 pm)
Maybe they were the first unibody SUV?
#6934 of 7122 Re: . [fintail]
Feb 08, 2013 (6:50 am)
Shoot, I'd say the first small SUV goes back even further to the original Ford Bronco, the International Scout, or even Toyota's own original Land Cruiser.
Feb 08, 2013 (7:38 am)
Subaru had a raised AWD wagon in 1972, also.
But...RAV4 started the car-like trend. Before that, everything was rough and tumble, which is fine. It's just not what suburbia wanted.
#6936 of 7122 Re: . [ateixeira]
Feb 08, 2013 (8:00 am)
The Japanese did do that thing, making tall wagons that were car like, but pretend butch to appeal to suburbanites - as opposed to their earlier simple tall wagons that didn't pretend. We know which are cooler, and sadly, which sold better. Don't know if I can call them SUVs.
#6937 of 7122 Re: . [fintail]
Feb 08, 2013 (8:15 am)
Don't know if I can call them SUVs.
Could say that about usage of vast majority or more of so-called "SUVs". What amount of time in the year are these vehicles actually used for "sport"? Is sport going to work? Or going shopping to food store or big box store? Going to place of worship? Going to a friend's house? Or taking the kids somewhere? Going to a restaurant?
Maybe they are considered sport when taking kids to a soccer game. Or putting golf clubs in back and going to golf course. But, if you use a car to take kids to soccer game or going to golf course with clubs in trunk, is your car then a Sport-car, or Sportscar?
Maybe "UV" is more accurate for so-called SUVs.
#6938 of 7122 Re: . [xrunner2]
Feb 08, 2013 (8:33 am)
Plus, when was the last time you saw a Q5 or X1 in Moab?
Sport is what you play when you arrive at the soccer field.
#6939 of 7122 Re: . [xrunner2]
Feb 08, 2013 (9:13 am)
It might be the pretense of sport. See it a lot here in the PNW - someone who walks up Cougar Mountain in June once a year is a rough and tumble outdoorsman, someone who last went skiing in 1993 still keeps a rack on their car all year, and so on. The S in SUV caters to this, image trumps all. It's certainly not sporty handling.
Even the "utility" can be sketchy, as they often hold less than a wagon. But I guess they are a vehicle, 1 out of 3 is still good in some professions.