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#6910 of 7195 Re: Best Super Bowl Ad - God Made a Farmer and Dodge Ram [xrunner2]
Feb 05, 2013 (5:34 pm)
It's a commercial. Some people seem to take them maybe too seriously. I would suggest some people distinguish actors from people
#6911 of 7195 Re: Best Super Bowl Ad - God Made a Farmer and Dodge Ram [kyfdx]
Feb 06, 2013 (7:29 am)
This comment you made, although it may have not been your intent, may be considered as offensive and disrespectful.
Even if farmers only make up 2 or 8 percent (as you defined as typical) of the American population, why exclude them as "real" Americans. Walk a mile in their shoes before making this statement. You did not say "most" Americans were being represented. Please use caution is all I'm asking and here is why this touched a nerve:
One very dear friend of mine was raised on a cattle farm in Montana and another in Colorado. Both were treated with full military honors upon their return home with a "real" American flag draped over their caskets. Both of them joined the military following the attack on "real" Americans, September 11, 2001. They were two farm raised country boy "real" Americans fighting for their homeland.
Sorry, and I'm sure this may not have been your intent, but please use caution.
Thank you very much for your patriotism and God bless.
#6912 of 7195 Re: Best Super Bowl Ad - God Made a Farmer and Dodge Ram [jjjaymmman]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Feb 06, 2013 (3:57 pm)
I think you're missing the point. The idea of the family farm died years ago and the guy running the hardware store in a little town is no less "real" or patriotic than my uncle the dairy farmer was.
I know both types, but the "farmer" is subsidized and not allowed to fail while the hardware store owner is. I buy hamburger from a WWII veteran who's entitled to subsidies and loans and extension help, while my hardware store guy got foreclosed on when the jobs left my area. Both are great guys, but I don't revere one more than the other.
Another uncle raises beef down in S. MS and he's the biggest jerk you ever met.
#6913 of 7195 Re: Best Super Bowl Ad - God Made a Farmer and Dodge Ram [steve_]
Feb 06, 2013 (4:15 pm)
The idea of the family farm died years ago
What do you base that on? Do you live near farmers and talk to them? Have you gone to county fairs over the years, seen the children and their parents in various competitions? Taken the time to talk to them?
#6914 of 7195 Re: Best Super Bowl Ad - God Made a Farmer and Dodge Ram [xrunner2]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Feb 06, 2013 (4:48 pm)
Like I say, I buy hamburger from a guy while looking out the window at his cows. Buy chicken and pork from a local farm. I went to the county fair last August.
But these folks aren't any more "real" or "patriotic" than the people wrenching or selling nuts and bolts. Maybe I feel that way because I do know a few ranchers and farmers and am related to some.
Most "farmers" are just corporate just as most hardware stores are Lowes or Home Depot so I'm not buying the commercials trying to tug at my heartstrings that way. Even lots of "little" guys are just under contract to corporations.
And that's the rest of the story.
Feb 06, 2013 (6:50 pm)
I swear I heard a Toyota commercial claiming the RAV4 is the "first small SUV". Ummm....
#6916 of 7195 Re: Best Super Bowl Ad - God Made a Farmer and Dodge Ram [steve_]
Feb 06, 2013 (9:44 pm)
Steve it was not your comment I was referring to about defining and excluding farmers as real Americans. It was kyfdx's comment. Maybe if he said most versus real Americans I would not have had the same feeling. Either way, the post below implies that farmers were being excluded as representing "real" Americans. This was painful as I explained in post #6911, although it may not have been his intent.
#6894 of 6915 Re: Best Super Bowl Ad - God Made a Farmer and Dodge Ram [xrunner2] by kyfdx HOST
Feb 04, 2013 (7:34 pm)
Replying to: xrunner2 (Feb 04, 2013 5:45 pm)
How many people are making a living as farmers? The typical American hasn't been a farmer since Paul Harvey was a boy.
Nostalgia might sell, but they sure weren't representing "real" Americans.
#6917 of 7195 Re: Best Super Bowl Ad - God Made a Farmer and Dodge Ram [jjjaymmman]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Feb 07, 2013 (4:30 am)
It's my post, not Steve's...
You'll notice "real" is in quotes... My post was a commentary on the commercial being completely out of date.... not on farmers in general..
My grandfather was a farmer, my father-in-law was a farmer, my brother-in-law thought he was a farmer (until he blew all of my father-in-laws money).. ad nauseum.
Offensive is in the eye of the beholder...
#6918 of 7195 Re: Best Super Bowl Ad - God Made a Farmer and Dodge Ram [jjjaymmman]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Feb 07, 2013 (5:42 am)
I knew who you were responding to. We're a conversation based board and anyone can reply to anyone here. And I didn't agree with your "real" comments because to me, you made it sound like farmers deserve to be put on a pedestal just because they work the land. That doesn't make sense to me any more than intimating that someone is a born liar and crook just because they sells cars.
I guess the ad worked; we're talking about it.
Feb 07, 2013 (5:40 am)
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