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#5930 of 7123 Re: AMG Tour [fintail]
by ateixeira
Jun 27, 2012 (8:08 am)
typical humorless German rejection
Nein!
I wonder if there was any variation, i.e. one builder's engine typically better than some other?
I'm sure AMG hand picked the best from Mercedes' existing factories, though.
#5931 of 7123 Re: AMG Tour [ateixeira]
by xrunner2
Jun 27, 2012 (8:23 am)
Cool to see the wheel lug nuts torqued by hand. That's the only way for me, in fact I re-torque them if anyone else touches mine.
Had one of our vehicles in to the dealer for an oil change during last winter. Dealer does "free" inspection of things such as brake pad thickness, tire tread depth, etc. Marks the data on a form attached to the receipt.
Had snow tires (on dedicated wheels) on the car during oil change. I am the one who puts on, takes off snow tires, puts on summer tires. Have used torque wrenches for many years to tighten lugs to spec. So, in early March, found that lug nuts on snow-tired wheels on one side of car way, way over-torqued. Had to use an 18 inch bar with socket AND an extension water pipe to break.
Went to dealer. Have known the Service Manager for many years. Talked to him. First asked how they check brake pads. He said they look at wheels on one side. Ah hah. Told him what I found. He apologized and said they ONLY use torque wrenches, do by hand. Showed me torque wrenches at various mechanic work stations.
Of course, too-tight lugs will cause warped rotors, pulsating, perhaps customer going back to dealer and THEN service people saying some kind of brake job is needed.
#5932 of 7123 Re: AMG Tour [xrunner2]
by ateixeira
Jun 27, 2012 (8:26 am)
Sabotage!
#5933 of 7123 Re: AMG Tour [ateixeira]
by fintail
Jun 27, 2012 (8:34 am)
I suspect quality is pretty much uniform, and there is not a huge amount of room for error in the modular assembly. Germany is a first world country (unlike much of this one) with apprenticeship programs and vocational training - many of the workers there were actually fairly young, starting off in a specialized facility from the beginning, trained right out of school, with a job progression supported by their employers even though the costs are high. Funny how that can work under the right leadership. No doubt the bar is higher to get in there, but maybe they don't want those set in ways learned in a normal factory - as it isn't one.
#5935 of 7123 Re: Cool one... [ateixeira]
by xrunner2
Jun 27, 2012 (8:35 am)
Boring. BORING!!!
Sad really. And, probably, the makers and sponsors of this ad are patting themselves on the back exclaiming the creativity of this ad. NOT. Just another of zillions of variations on a theme that has been done by them and others for many, many years.
#5936 of 7123 Re: Cool one... [xrunner2]
by ateixeira
Jun 27, 2012 (8:58 am)
Yeah but that commercial has soul.
I'm kidding, of course.
#5937 of 7123 we have something up our sleeve :-)
by steve_ HOST
Jun 27, 2012 (4:20 pm)
Stay tuned.
#5938 of 7123 Re: we have something up our sleeve :-) [steve_]
by explorerx4
Jun 27, 2012 (5:07 pm)
My wife says I'm a channel flipper. How long?
#5939 of 7123 Re: we have something up our sleeve :-) [explorerx4]
by steve_ HOST
Jun 27, 2012 (5:12 pm)
I just heard "soon" and in selected markets. Except that it should hit YouTube too.
(Don't all wives say that?).