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Dayton Rollercoaster by imidazol97
Jan 30, 2007 (4:53 pm)
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The Beast isn't the only roller coaster in the area at Cedar Point South (Kings Island).
 
The gas prices were $2.259 yesterday somewhat in unison. Now they're back down to $2.179 currently. Of course some stations are still holding at the $2.259 level. $1.959 on the base (Wright Patterson Air Force Base).
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Slight drop... by lemko
Jan 31, 2007 (5:57 am)
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...Sunoco on Rising Sun near Tyson has regular at $2.21 - down two cents.
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For the "we poor californians get gouged" crowd by larsb
Jan 31, 2007 (7:01 am)
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Gas prices lowering slowly
 
This is the interesting part I wanted to point out:
 
At $2.47, Oregon's average gasoline price is fifth highest in the nation. Hawaii has the highest average price at $2.87, followed by California and Washington at $2.52 and Nevada at $2.48.
 
Notice that CA, WA, NV, and OR are all in the top five highest prices.
 
See the pattern? (wait for it, wait for it....)
 
They are all states in the WESTERN REGION which always has higher gas prices, due the the NORMAL MARKET CONDITIONS IN THAT REGION.
 
Not due to a "group gouging" which is going on.
 
Google any regional gas prices chart over the last two decades, and the western region is ALWAYS higher. Normal Market forces.
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Re: For the "we poor californians get gouged" crowd [larsb] by fintail
Jan 31, 2007 (7:44 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 31, 2007 7:01 am)

What makes up these "normal market conditions" and "normal market forces"? Or maybe we should all just accept cliches...
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Read on for edumcation :) :) by larsb
Jan 31, 2007 (8:58 am)
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Google this yourself folks, it's not hard to find:
 
The EIA has reported that prices are generally higher in the Western states, observing that production costs and refinery investment per barrel are higher in the West. In addition, Arizona is currently requiring two unique fuel formulations in the southern part of the state, which differ from gasoline sold in other areas. According to the American Petroleum Institute (API), the proliferation of fuel types reduces the flexibility of refiners and distributors to respond to local and regional demand, which can affect gasoline prices.
 
And more:
 
Western region gas prices always higher
 
High gasoline prices in the West sprout from an intricate web of factors that range from a lack of refineries to weather to greater demand. Toss in an occasional mechanical problem at a refinery, and it's enough to turn the market on its ear.
 
"So much of it has to do with timing," says Denton Cinquegrana, the West Coast spot markets editor for the New Jersey-based Oil Price Information Service. "The Western region really is an island unto itself with only a few refineries and not much product coming from other areas.
 
"If a problem comes up in the supply chain, everything gets thrown off. Someone might want to say it's big oil companies getting more money but it's not that simple."

 
And this:
 
Gas prices in the Western states are generally more expensive than the rest of the country because geography keeps the entire region isolated.
 
The Gulf Coast states refine almost half of the nation's gasoline. But no pipelines cross the Rocky Mountains, so most gas must be refined in the West for the Western states.

 
I would not be pushing this issue if it were not true ladies and gents. The Western region of the country is unusual in regard to the refining and fuel situation, and those forces keep prices higher for the West. It's not gouging.
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Re: Read on for edumcation :) :) [larsb] by fintail
Jan 31, 2007 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 31, 2007 8:58 am)

So how is this a "normal market force" or "condition"?
 
There's never any numbers.
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Re: Read on for edumcation :) :) [fintail] by larsb
Jan 31, 2007 (10:07 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 31, 2007 10:05 am)

What "numbers" are you looking for?
 
PS Phoenix lowest price is $2.13 today
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Re: Read on for edumcation :) :) [larsb] by fintail
Jan 31, 2007 (2:25 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 31, 2007 10:07 am)

How these "forces" and "conditions" impact prices.
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Re: Read on for edumcation :) :) [fintail] by rorr
Jan 31, 2007 (2:31 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 31, 2007 2:25 pm)

Slightly (mostly) off topic but....
 
How come Housing prices are always so high in the Seattle area? Is that due to the "market forces" and "local conditions" or are those high prices due to some kinda conspiracy as well (Big Lumber)?
 
I wonder what sort of profit margin is considered 'acceptable' for home sellers in your neck of the woods?
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I vote by fezo
Jan 31, 2007 (3:13 pm)
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for Big Lumber. They are in cahoots with OWEC. (Organization of Wood Exporting Countries). I blame the Canadians....

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