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Central VA: Hess, up 9 cents in one day to $2.58 for 87. Sheetz, Exxon, and Citgo, up 10 cents to $2.65 for 87. Getting close to Katrina panic prices. I did hear today on NPR that prices are rising because demand remains very high (I assume they meant in the US, not necessarily the entire world), and MTBE is being phased out as a clean-air gasoline additive. This is because MTBE has been implicated in ground water contamination from leaky fuel storage tanks. The only substitute for MTBE is ethanol, the price of which is shooting through the roof. And the East and West coasts have it especially bad, because ethanol has to be trucked in from the middle of the country. It can't be transported through pipelines because it absorbs water. Trucking of course is more expensive. Now if you think clean air is something we can do without, I remind you of two rather disturbing sights on my cross-country trek last December. In the middle of nowhere (western Utah on Routes 6/50), we saw an ominous gray haze enveloping the northeastern sky as we headed east. At first I thought it was a huge coal-fired power plant causing the problem, but as we got closer to the plant, it became obvious that the power plant wasn't the source, but rather the still very distant metro Salt Lake City area (which we skirted well to the south). Then a few days later, after crossing the Continental Divide and heading east out of Canon City, CO, we saw the same spreading gray haze, this time emanating from the Pueblo, CO metro area (and maybe Colorado Springs as well). Possibly because we were in such unpopulated areas that the contrast between clean and polluted air was so stark, but you never really think of Salt Lake City and Pueblo in the same way as Los Angeles or New York. Scary. |
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...NJ law prohibits the changing of gas prices more than once per 24 hours, so we don't have to deal with prices wandering around all day long. kcram - Pickups Host |
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Replying to: klizmaaa (Apr 07, 2006 4:14 pm) me: A lot of people realize that outrage does not work. It does not make things better. Saving gas or producing more energy are ways to do that. If "outrage" at high prices or gas shortages worked, the problem would have been solved in the 70's! Or in the 80's. If you don't like paying the price, there's not much you can do but buy less (or none). Personally I'm going to reduce my gas usage by moving, reducing my commute from 30 miles (though I carpool) to live in an apartment 1-2 miles from work. And - if the Caliber SRT4 is really nice I might trade in my Firebird for it, and get a couple of mpg higher. |
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The media wouldn't report any of that stuff even if it were true because the vast majority of the media are far left lunatics and doom and gloom are the only things that are news to them. They're too busy trying to make the Bush administration look bad to worry about reporting any news.
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Outrage does work, but only temporarily. Last summer when the price of gas skyrocketed because of Katrina, people (and many of the media outlets) were screaming about all the gouging that was taking place, which eventually resulted in the price coming back down (though it didn't go down to the price it was before the spike). The more the insane profits of the oil moguls are publicized, the more they have to justify their greed, and when they can't, the prices come down.
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...I think it's time for that outrage again. If prices are this high now with virtually no major meteorological or political events, imagine what they'd be if another Katrina or 9-11 happened. Fuel would be out of reach for many people. Low-wage workers may just not show up for work as fuel for their vehicles would cost more than they'd make on their shift at Target or Wal-Mart.
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Replying to: bottgers (Apr 08, 2006 7:37 am) Can't wait for that next energy bill...no wait, it's a liberal conspiracy! The same liberal elite who made domestic cars unpopular! Really, it gets old.
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Replying to: bottgers (Apr 08, 2006 7:44 am) The same thing is going on with natural gas, and heating oil prices and markets. What sort of conspiracy is going on with the gold markets? Is there all of a sudden a shortage of gold? Why has the price shot up so much over the last year? |
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 08, 2006 7:52 am) me: Fuel is already out-of-reach for millions in this country, and for billions of people around the world. I would then conclude that people adapt, survive, and live without it. Fuel has always only gone to those are earn a certain amount. you: Low-wage workers may just not show up for work as fuel for their vehicles would cost more than they'd make on their shift at Target or Wal-Mart. me: well I don't think many people are driving 20 or 30 miles each way to work for minimum wage; that's a poor choice. Most people live in urban/suburban areas and there are many jobs that go begging near people. Also many businesses could adjust their shifts to be longer and workers to have to come in less days - (4) 10 hour shifts than (5) 8 hr for example. |
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Replying to: fintail (Apr 08, 2006 8:19 am) I like Michael Savage's idea.  For every 1 illegal alien we have here in the U.S. we get 1 barrel of oil per month for Mexico. Rocky |
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