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Toyota Prius, Honda Insight, Hybrid Cars, Fuel Efficiency (MPG)
#187 of 257 Insight co$t is about average
Dec 24, 2000 (7:41 am)
Why do folks exclaim that a Honda Insight costs so much ? Your average run of the mill smog machine costs about the same. I don't own a Insight (wish I did) never even ridden in one. What do we expect more for less like in the computer world (grin) And if there is a tax credit ... h a p p y h o l i d a y s !
Rob Fruth - Houston, Tx
1981 Raleigh for commuting, errands & fun
1997 Trek 2300 for real fun !
2000 DX 5 speed Civic hatchback
#188 of 257 Prius Crankcase Oil and Cruising RPM's
Dec 27, 2000 (12:12 pm)
I have been looking at several cars that get better fuel economy than the '91 Acura Legend LS that I (Original Owner) now drive (298,000 miles). I have driven the Honda Insight and have arranged to rent a Prius from my local Toyota dealer 2 weekends from now.
Does anyone know what rpm the Prius turns at 60 mph? Most of you probably know that the Prius does not have a tachometer; so, the only way that I can tell is to find some technical data or have a mechanic hook up some instrumentation to the car. The local Toyota dealer's special Prius mechanic said that he did not know. My Acura turns 2,600 rpm at 60; the Honda Insight turns a low 2,500 at 70, a very high gearing for a little 3 cylinder but this means the engine is just loafing at freeway speeds.
Second, does anyone know what the crankcase lubricant requirement for the Prius is? The Toyota mechanic showed me some oil; but, it looks just like something like 10W30. I suspected that the Prius would use a synthetic like the Honda Insight which uses a synthetic 0W20 at ($8.50/quart from the dealer only at this point). If the Prius normally uses only a regular mineral oil, a shift to a synthetic, like Mobil 1, might improve mileage somewhat even thought the engine is only a 4 cylinder.
Thanks for any info that anyone can provide.
#189 of 257 GOHEV Gathering in Los Angeles Sun, Jan. 7th
Dec 31, 2000 (12:00 pm)
Happy New Year!!! One week left till the GOHEV (Gathering of Hybrid Electric Vehicles) in Los Angeles (Sunday, Jan. 7th at noon), at Griffith Park. So far we have about 17 Priuses and 14 Insights, plus 2 GM EV1s registered to join us. The location will be at Crystal Springs picnic area on the east side of the park. There are BBQ grills in the park and lots of tables for picnics.
Edmunds.com will be there with give-a-ways.
Temps should be in the mid 70s. Get there early so we can line up all the vehicles for pictures. We will post them later for everyone to see.
If you wish to get on the list, please email:
Mention your vehicle, (or one you're interested in)
Where you're driving from.
How many in your party.
See you there.
#190 of 257 Toyota Prius and Honda Insight were about 20 feet away from each other at the big Auto Show
Jan 14, 2001 (7:45 am)
And it looks like the Prius is a far more intelligent design. If I did alot of city driving or commuting, I would love to own a Prius.
#191 of 257 Contacting the Toyota Advertising Dept? How?
Jan 15, 2001 (4:23 pm)
I want to contact the Toyota advertising dept. to see if they are willing to pay me to advertise the 2002 Prius (similar to the www.autowraps.com OR www.freecar.com program) by placing an adhesive exterior advertisement on the vehicle. Anyone know how to contact Toyota adversting dept? Their website didn't help me at all. Thanks.
Jan 16, 2001 (10:03 pm)
We just purchaced a Prius. The dealer told us that the first 5000 miles we couldn't expect to get the 52 mpg. Has anyone else experienced those results?
#194 of 257 prius vs insight
Jan 17, 2001 (6:46 pm)
id definetely consider a hybrid when i buy a car. they have just gotta fix the style so it appeals to more people. i find the insight ugly, but the prius looks better (although it looks sorta like an echo..). the prius would be my pick just for its seating capacity, great mileage, ok performance and much more normal look.
Jan 18, 2001 (9:29 am)
please know that although two specific cars are mentioned in the topic title, this topic is primarily about hybrid technology and its impact on the auto industry and the cars we buy. That's why it's in New & Views.
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#196 of 257 #150 of 195 Actual Prius mileage??? by rmarsh2
Jan 18, 2001 (2:32 pm)
We have a couple of the new Priuses in our fleet and over the last month we logged about 3,000 miles on it with a dozen different drivers doing everything under the sun---round town, highway, back roads (dirt) and a lot of stop and go.....and averaged about 40 mpg....just to give you an idea.