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#1985 of 2496 Re: 1992 prelude [944s]
Feb 01, 2007 (6:02 pm)
155K miles on a '92 is pretty good. I know of 2 people who owned these when new and they were so much fun to drive. Which model are you looking at? The 4th Gen '92 Preludes had 3 models: S, Si, 4WS. The S is the base model with 15" wheel covers and dealer installed AC with Honda's (non-VTEC) H22 Motor that produced somewhere around 135 Hp.
Next up is the Si. Powered by Honda's H23A 160hp engine. It had full 16" wheels.
The 4WS has the same engine as the Si, but had Honda's Electronic 4 wheel steering that steered the rear wheels a few degrees to aid in handling and parking. The 4WS Prelude would have a sticker on the back and have 2 front air bags.
#1987 of 2496 Re: 1992 prelude [944s]
Feb 02, 2007 (6:22 pm)
So I see it has ABS, so that means it is probably an Si. The wheels on the car are aftermarket. Salvage title...I would stay away from it. Keep looking!
#1988 of 2496 Lucky Me! Just Purchased 2001 Prelude SH...
Feb 05, 2007 (8:14 pm)
with 25,500 mileage--truly "mint" condition. What an amazing find as the window to find last gen. 'ludes with low miles in great condition is getting increasingly smaller. This is my 2nd Prelude--owned an '84 way back when and you couldn't kill it if you wanted to. Guy I bought it from is a contractor so drove his work van back & forth--hence the low miles. Had to drive to Long Island from CT to get it. CT drivers do not like the Long Island Expressway! NY Car guy...as I'm a gal who's re-experiencing the thrill her tomboy adolescent phase (my first car was a 240z) and loving every minute of it, what type of after-market enhancements would you recommend? Car came with AEM short ram air filter. Guidance is much appreciated!
#1989 of 2496 Re: Lucky Me! Just Purchased 2001 Prelude SH... [lulu9]
Feb 06, 2007 (6:59 pm)
WOW! 25K miles on an '01 Type SH! That's nothing! What color is your car? You live in CT? Cool, I live in Westchester. I love taking my car on the Merit Parkway.
The 3 best modifications I've made to my car so far are Tires, Tires, & Suspension Techniques Front & Rear Anti-roll bars.
Why do I say tires twice? If your car has only 25K miles on it, you've probably got the original Bridgestone Potenza RE92 tires. They are awful! Handling is decent on dry pavement (Tires squeal & howl way before the suspension gives up), but wet traction (hydroplaning) is kinda scary, & forget driving on them in the snow (even though we haven't had much this year).
I've replaced my tires with a set of Yokohama AVS ES100 Z rated peformance tires. I was able to notice a big difference in cornering as well as outstanding wet traction. These tires are downright DANGEROUS in the snow. I barely made it out of my parking lot of my condo complex a few weeks ago when we had a dusting. I literally almost crashed at 5mph.
Which brings me to my next modification of tires. I've run a set (4) Michelin Pilot Arctic Alpin Tires for a few years now. I went with a minus 1 setup (195/60 HR15 as opposed to 205/50 ZR16). Snow traction is INCREDIBLE. I used to live in the city and parked on the street and got plowed in many times. I got out with minimal digging.
A few months ago I added Suspension Techniques front & rear Anti roll bars to my car. What a difference! I thought the Prelude handled well, but I did notice it pitched and rolled a little. The Suspension Techniques sway bars tightened the car up really nicely. It corners so much more neutrally and fells so much more balanced. I carry so much more speed into corners than I used to.
Let me know if you are interested, because I know somebody who does excellent work (He also intsalled my Apexi world SPort exhaust, Pioneer Radio with Ipod adapter & sirius radio, and got my tires).
My '01 Milano Red Type SH has over 78,000 miles on it and drives so well. Just change the oil every 4K with FULL SYNTHETIC oil and you'll have years of fun with your Prelude.
#1990 of 2496 Re: Lucky Me! Just Purchased 2001 Prelude SH... [nyccarguy]
Feb 06, 2007 (10:02 pm)
Nighthawk Black Pearl...very sleek. Yep--you called it! Still has original Bridgestone Potenza tires.
You must know that after driving a donut for 5+ years (a Camry--I experimented by going into a conservative, sensible stage that put me into a driving coma), I decided to get back to my roots--where I genuinely belong. I learned the hard way that I absolutely need to have a sporty, great handling car to drive, a car that makes my soul smile. It's akin to dating a guy for a long time who's really nice and kind and dependable--and your family and friends think he's great--but there's no chemistry or passion. You yearn for a little bit of badass.
The thing is, nyccarguy, the transition from the Camry to the Prelude has been so dramatic--such a welcome relief--I haven't even noticed how bad these original tires are! Really!? What with the bitter cold weather we've been having over the last two weeks (since I purchased the car actually), I've been driving rather cautiously due to lots of icy patches and black ice--especially in the Merritt: scary! I will definitely take your advice on the tire situation. May I use your response as a shopping guide per se? I am very grateful for your enthusiasm and generous insights.
The guy I bought this from, a 25-year old, needed to unload his car payment but told me his plans for the car if he had kept it. He wanted to install a turbo charger kit. Well, I'm not planning to race at Lime Rock anytime soon, but I would certainly love to find that happy medium. Sounds like you've done some really cool things to enhance your car's performance! How fun! It's like redesigning a room! (Pardon my girly analogies.) It's also inspiring to know that your car drives so well at 78,000. But then again, it's a Honda--and a Prelude--and a well-maintained auto is like a well-maintained body--can look great at any age.
How loud is your exhaust? Or, rather, how much louder is it over the original? Also, if I may pick your brain further, how did you decide on the specific brands/parts your mechanic installed...for example, the Apexi world SPort exhaust and Suspension Techniques. There is such a plethora/variety of after-market options...I find it overwhelming. How did you decide?
Since I'm in lower Fairfield County, I have no prob. whatsoever driving to Westchester--if that's where your mechanic is located. I love taking field trips--except to, ahem, Long Island! Anywhere but there! Oh...before I forget: This might seem like a silly question, but did you have new speakers installed when you upgraded your radio?
Bless the guy's heart who sold me his beloved car because he was genuinely concerned and emphatic about my continuing to use the synthetic oil...he even gave me a few "cans" to make sure that I keep up the same level of maintenance he did. I promised that I would give it a great home, which I fully intend to do. I even took great care of the Camry until it was totalled in an accident on 12/28--an accident I must have orchestrated on a spiritual level because I always wanted to experience the last generation Prelude. (I was run into by an Italian visitor in a rented mini-van--he ran a red light and almost killed me. It was a horrible collision, yet I walked away without a scratch.)
The fiction writer in me believes in happy endings, and I ended up with this mint condition Prelude. It was exactly what I wanted--the SH manual, low mileage, black. O.K...so it will cost an arm and a leg for a clutch replacement someday. Oh well! I'm still smiling. (Why would I want an automatic, and why wouldn't I want to experience the extra "whatever" that the SH offers??) Am I not worth it?
(BTW, there are some interesting reviews on the SH on epinions...have you read them?)
And...I just discovered this helpful forum! How fortuitous is that?
Thank you again for your advice...You're a wonderful resource!
#1991 of 2496 Re: Lucky Me! Just Purchased 2001 Prelude SH... [lulu9]
Feb 07, 2007 (6:47 am)
Welcome lulu, I'm an owner of a 01 Nighthawk Black Pearl Prelude Type SH as well. I have about 29k miles on mine. I drive a 92 Integra GS-R during the winter. Therefore the low miles. NYC gave you some good recommendations. I think at some point I will do the suspension upgrade. Welcome to the club, you have a mint Prelude. Enjoy!
#1992 of 2496 Re: Lucky Me! Just Purchased 2001 Prelude SH... [timothyaw]
Feb 07, 2007 (3:09 pm)
Thank you for the nice welcome, timothyaw. I may get a second car at some point next year--before winter. If I don't, the miles will be up there in no time!
This is definitely a "Guy Thing" I've observed over the years, which is definitely a Good Thing: owning more than one car to accommodate more than one purpose--very smart and practical. Hmmm: 2nd car vs. clothes/shoes?
What is your opinion on this AEM short ram air filter the former owner installed? Guy I bought it from thinks it makes car faster and gives better gas mileage. Considering the expense of upgrades, it was a fairly inexpensive part to change (he installed it himself): about the price of a pair of shoes (that's my measuring stick). So I'm wondering: If this is so great, why haven't other proud Prelude owners done it?
Like NYC Car Guy, who's first bone of contention were the tires, and he did not hesitate to buy better tires--two different kinds, no less (I'll have to look those up)! Now that gets my attention. See how important "shoes" are?? My fashion advice to friends has always been to start with the shoes first as a focal point/foundation--and go (build) from there. Seems that this can apply to cars too! How funny!
#1993 of 2496 Re: Lucky Me! Just Purchased 2001 Prelude SH... [lulu9]
Feb 07, 2007 (7:34 pm)
Black Preludes are really sharp! It was actually one of my top color choices when I was shopping in April 2002 (White, Black, & Red). Black looks great at night and at dusk. You'll get lots of compliments on that car!
Wow, a camry huh, damn I'm sorry! You must feel like you're driving a Maserati coming from a camry!
As far as snow tires go, since it is already February and we're having a mild winter snow wise (but damn is it cold) you can probably slide by.
Forced induction is great, I'm a huge fan. Turbocharging is VERY EXPENSIVE and from what I hear it is not easy to Turbocharge an H22A motor.
My Exhaust. It is an Apexi World Sport fully stainless steel cat back exhaust system. At idle and around town it is quieter than stock. It doesn't drone on the highway. When you down shift from 5th to 3rd & bury the throttle at 60 mph it roars with a deep bellow! The only reason I originally replaced it is because my original exhaust system got damaged by a 1/2" thick steel plate about 6 months after I got the car. I was able to salvage the muffler and have a muffler shop fabricate a pipe for me. That OEM muffler and fabricated pipe lasted me a few years. When it finally crapped out, my car sounded like something from the Fast and Furious. I got a quote from my dealer to replace the exhaust system and then a quote from the speed/stereo shop. For about $200 more I got a much better exhaust that I couldn't be happier with. Something to keep in mind if you ever need to replace the exhaust.
I decided on the World SPort because it was recommended to me by a few people. I told the guy when I bought it that I wanted quiet around town and loud when I opened it up.
As far as the sway bars go, there are lots of companies that makes suspension parts for the Prelude, but not too many that make them for the Type SH. Again, they were reccomended to me by the installer. I'm very happy with them! Besides new tires, the best modification. Somewhere around $500 too.
I forgot to mention that at 78,000 miles I'm still on my original brakes & rotors!
The clutch was VERY EXPENSIVE! on our Type SH Preludes, the ATTS unit has to be removed & re-installed for the clutch to be replaced. It is about an extra 5 hours of labor! When my clutch burnt out, I replaced it with a CENTERFORCE clutch. Do asearch in this forum for clutch replacement and you'll see some of my various rants!
I did not have new speakers installed with my radio. I'm not an audiophile by any means. I wanted to have SIRIUS (HOWARD RULES) installed and new that an FM modulator (FM radio tuned to 88.7 so Satellite Radio can play) would sound like garbage.
If you like the Merit, you'll LOVE the Bronx River Parkway! It is half the reason I love being at work at &:30 on Saturday mornings!
The place that does all the "work" on my car is AUDIO VISIONS. Coming from CT, take 287 to exit 5. Make a left at the traffic light at the top of the exit ramp. Go to Rte 119 and make a left (Mitsubishi dealer). Make a right on Aqueduct (Enterprise Rent A Car) and AUDIO VISIONS is about a block up on your left. Talk to Manny (he's the owner). Tell him Bradd with the Red Prelude sent you. They do EXCELLENT work! Saturday is probably their busiest day.
You'll be very pleased if you have them do work on your car. I got my stereo, i-pod adapter, exhaust, sway bars, tires, and had them do a major service on my car. They got me tires and put a new radio in my wife's car. They put new brake rotors & pads on my sister's Jetta.
#1994 of 2496 And just 2 more things
Feb 07, 2007 (7:52 pm)
I had the Honda Fog Lights intsalled on my car. They light up the side of the road and the road directly in front of you really well in conjunction to the headlights.
since nyccarguy jr's arrival in late September I've cut down on my Prelude's mileage. Now I just go back and forth to work 6 days a week. On the weekends we take my wife's car. I was putting on 20K miler per year and it will probably go down to 12 or 13K.
When the time comes in a galaxy far, far, away, I'd probably replace my Prelude with a used E46 M3 or a new Mitsubishi EVO X.