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Honda Prelude, Coupe
Jun 05, 2003 (5:43 pm)
I saw the TSX at the NY Auto show a few months ago. I didn't care for the exterior styling much. The front looks like a Japanese A4 while the back looks like the previous generation Camry. I thought the interior was nice though.
CAR AND DRIVER (p81 July 2003) had some interesting things to say about the TSX as it compares to the Prelude.
"As far as handling characteristics, the TSX is reminiscent of the dearly departed Honda Prelude, a multiple 10Best winner and champion of our "Best Handling Car under $30,000" (June 1997). Each posses a point-and-shoot mentality that allows you to drive the snot out of it with little fear of getting bit in the ass, and each inspires more confidence the faster and harder it's driven."
Have either of you gotten you hands on a TSX to see what it really drives like.
Reading excerps like that make me somewhat angry that once we sell our respective Preludes, we can never (never say never) own another. So enjoy your cars guys!
Jun 05, 2003 (6:13 pm)
I've been interested in getting a TSX test drive for exactly that sort of reason. The problem is that I wouldn't give up the Prelude for it, so I don't want to waste an Acura salesperson's time. I do like the photos of the TSX's interior. Very warm, elegant. Prelude is dreary in comparison.
Jun 06, 2003 (6:01 am)
I've driven both the MT and AT TSX. It's a decent drive with the MT, but it never really urges you to keep pushing it like the Prelude can.
There's a bunch of fore/aft pitching under hard braking/throttle, and the car feels much taller and heaver (which it is). I'm used to my LSD, so the TSX started understeering right away, and the tail could only be coaxed out with trail braking. It's very composed (read: heavy) feeling at 80MPH-plus, but the steering is a bit twitchy off-center and lacks feel. The ride over rough surfaces isn't much better than the Prelude, and the noise levels are pretty close (taking into account that I have a CAI).
The engine is nice, but it's no real improvement on the H22A4, and it doesn't rev as quickly or as high. Also, the power peak is closer to the redline than in the Prelude, which means more shifting. I live to shift, but it felt like I had to constantly keep shifting and pinning the gas pedal just to feel like I was getting anywhere. Throttle respones is good, as it should be in a 6-speed, but you really have to work the engine and tranny hard to stay "on boil." It became tedious after about 10 minutes.
The AT car is a dog. Feels like being attachted to the end of a tired rubber band that hasn't been pulled back far enough. You keep waiting and waiting, and then the car upshifts. With a V6, it would be the best Buick ever. Yawn.
The interior is a mixed bag: nice design overall with material quality matching that in the Prelude, but I don't like leather, and there's actually less head room than the Prelude (a bit more hip and shoulder room, though). The dash cowl is much higher than the Prelude, and visibility over the hood is non-existant -- I couldn't get the seat up high enough for my tastes. I felt like I was looking out of gun slits.
The TSX is a good value for the luxury bits -- dual-zone climate control! Just what you need in a car barely bigger than a Civic! -- but I don't get the ad copy which heralds it as "A new level of performance." Sorry, but the car barely meets the standard set by the '93 Integra GS-R.
The Prelude was one of a kind. The TSX is different, but doesn't compete with its intended competitors (325i, A4, IS300, C230, etc.). If I wanted a sports sedan, for a couple of thousand more than the TSX, I'd snag a G35 6MT of an off-lease 328/330i.
#1296 of 2496 Like I said before
Jun 06, 2003 (6:47 pm)
The styling alone turned me off to the TSX. If I were looking for a Sports Sedan when the time comes, I'm heading straight to the BMW dealership. There's going to be a 325i (via European Delivery) in Munich with my name on it. I haven't driven one in about 4 years, but the last time I drove a 323is (E36) manual I remember the I6 engine pulling strongly especially after the 4K mark right up to the redline. Don't get me wrong, a 330 (with the extra power/torque) would be great, but the 325i seems to be somewhat of a bargain if you equip it somewhat lightly (not stripped, but not fully loaded) and go the Euro Delivery route.
Tonight was beautiful. I drove the Prelude down into the city with the roof open and the windows down. I expect the roads to be bad later when the 9:00 showing of 2Fast2Furious lets out:) so I'm in for the night. Besides, I've got to work tomorrow; 7:30AM sharp!
Jun 07, 2003 (3:49 pm)
Hi people, I am interested in buying my first car, I am 20 years old, and the Prelude is my first choice. After reviewing other Honda's and Acura's this is the best car for my money. So does anyone recommend it or maybe in other in its class? THanks I could really use the help.
Jun 08, 2003 (3:07 pm)
The Prelude is a wonderful car. For a 20 year old and even for those fogeys like those of us in our late 20's. What is your budget? Are you looking for a 5th Generation Prelude ('97-'01) or a 4th Generation ('92-'96)?
Get yourself a Prelude w/ a manual transmission. Even if you can't drive stick yet, you'll learn and you love it!
Here are just a few of the (many) things I love about my Milano Red 2001 Prelude Type SH: The car's handling is absolutely amazing. I take corners and exit ramps way faster than the posted speed limit. The steering is nicely weighted and transmits excellent road feel. The interior is nice anjd simple and typical high quality late 1990's Honda. I love the creased and angular lines of the Prelude. I love the fact you don't see too many Preludes on the road. Acceleration is good enough to get you into trouble. The car has a nice weight to it compared to other Sport Compacts (Eclipse, Integra) which give it a great highway ride. Did I mention the handling is incredible...
#1299 of 2496 himiler...CAI Question
Jun 08, 2003 (3:10 pm)
Himiler: Do you have a problem with your CAI in the rain/snow (driving through a large puddle or downpour)? It seems like a great modification to do (not that I'm looking to do any modifications...yet:). You can pick one up for less than $200.
Jun 08, 2003 (3:42 pm)
No trouble whatsoever in the rain or snow with my CAI. It's a great mod that's really simple to DIY.
As long as you never drive thru standing water that is higher than the centerline ofthe front wheel, you'll be fine. Even if you do get into some slightly deeper stuff, as long as you keep the throttle closed, it's ok.
I bought mine from http://www.coximports.com
They're an honest shop, and ship quickly. Make sure you buy an AEM if you get one. (Mine's blue, but a polished one would be great with your red paint.)
Jun 08, 2003 (4:30 pm)
I too have been thinking about a CAI now that the Prelude is settling in as a long-term ownership vehicle.
Would you say that the effect is more or less pronounced between summer and winter, or is it roughly the same?
Jun 08, 2003 (4:37 pm)
I definitely got the idea (from manhy different boards) that AEM is the way to go with the CAI. Do you have the bypass valve? I'd like to get my hands on a Mugen exhaust, but they are mucho chavo (almost $1000 + installation). I don't even really care (too much) about the increased performance, but I hear the Mugen Exhaust is quieter than stock.