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Honda Prelude, Coupe
#1020 of 2496 re: rotor problems
Dec 15, 2002 (8:09 pm)
In March 2002 I purchased a leftover base 2001 Prelude coupe with the automatic. After 3,600 miles I replaced the stock factory rotors with cross-drilled rotors from the Honda dealer, as the originals were already badly warped. (According to the dealer, these are factory-approved rotors and will not void the warranty.) For awhile, all was well.
Now, the odometer just hit 16,000 miles, and I'm getting pulsations through the brake pedal again! And no, it's not my driving - passengers have commented that I'm not hard on the brakes. I enjoy the engine and the handling of this car, but quite frankly, my patience is wearing faster than the rotors. I'm seriously looking at unloading this car come spring.
Honda needs to get its act together with its braking systems - my 1993 Civic EX sedan went over 60,000 miles before the rotors needed to be turned. Granted, those were mostly highway miles, but I expect considerably more than 12,000 miles between rotor turnings, even with mostly urban driving. Especially on what is supposed to be a sports coupe.
Dec 16, 2002 (4:31 am)
You might investigate getting your next set of rotors cryo-treated: the process makes them far more resistant to damage from heat build-up. Honda rotors are prone to warping due to the large pad size (the pad holds heat and hot-spots the rotor when the car isn't moving). My experiences with Honda brakes have been mixed: my '87 Prelude and '96 Integra both ate brakes (front and rear, every year!), but my '91 Civic and '98 Integra GS-R both went over 100K without needing pads or rotors.
Most of the hot-spotting occurs when you brake hard, and then sit at a long light or park the car without driving around to cool the brakes. There is the remote possiblilty that your calipers could be sticking, causing the pads to drag, but that would be idicated by rapid pad wear, which you don't mention.
NYC--Finally, you're a VTEC-junkie! The suspense was killing me. Just remember to keep an eye on the oil level.
Blacktalon--I think the increase in steering feel and tracking stability I'm getting with the Alpins (over the S-03's) comes from their narrower tread width (195 vs. 205), but the S-03's do tend to follow every groove in the road, making the steering busy on worn pavement.
Dec 16, 2002 (5:46 am)
I had to replace the rear pads at about 57,000 miles, while the fronts, now with just under 70,000, still show 20% according to the dealer. I thought the fronts should wear first. I dunno.
Dec 16, 2002 (4:33 pm)
I notice some rattling when the bass is a bit high while listening to music. It seems to be coming from the rear speaker grilles and possibly the ceiling, above the headliner... how easy/expensive is it to address this with dynamat or a knockoff? Any experience in this area? I'm trying to get a feel for whether this is a $25 fix or a $250 fix.
Dec 16, 2002 (8:09 pm)
Thanks for the information. What exactly is involved with having the rotors cyro-treated?
Dec 17, 2002 (7:11 am)
sphinx--I've got it, too. Also have rattles/buzzing from the hi-mount CSL on the parcel shelf. I've thought that some double-sided foam sticky tape would fix the problem, but I've been less than seriously motivated to work on it.
grbeck--To be honest, I'm not entirely sure. I know that the rotors (also can be done to engine blocks) are immersed in a bath of liquid nitrogen (or something similarly cold) which has the effect of strengthening the crystalline structure of the metal, but beyond that, I'm clueless. Sadly, I'm not specifically aware of where you can get this treatment performed, but you might get results from a google search or by asking around on car tuning boards.
#1026 of 2496 re: himiler
Dec 17, 2002 (8:40 pm)
Thank you for the information. You'd think the car companies would start doing this themselves, as complaints about warping rotors seem to be pretty widespread.
#1027 of 2496 speaker buzzing, warped brakes, tailpipe smoke...
Dec 19, 2002 (7:06 pm)
I have 36,900 miles on my Prelude, (fresh from 26 days at the body shop) and the brakes have been warped for about 1,000 miles. It's pretty annoying and I'll have them check it at the next service. Also, since I got my car back from the body shop, the speakers have been rattling when the bass hits hard. I took the grills off to find a bunch of detritus on the cones, anyway, cleaning it made them sound a lot better.
Finally, my car lightly smokes when it's floored. I change the oil every 3,000 miles and drive it pretty carefully, I mean, the Potenzas are still original and probably can go 7,000 more miles. I don't understand where the smoke is coming from. It doesn't show up under normal driving.
Dec 24, 2002 (3:08 pm)
You're getting some oil burning at WOT due to some blow-by around the piston rings. Although it can be a normal sign of engine wear (depending upon how the car's been driven), it's unfortunately a sign of compression loss.
As long as your car doens't blow blue smoke on a cold start, it's not much to fret about.
#1029 of 2496 Prelude - The Ultimate Ski vehicle
Dec 25, 2002 (8:00 am)
I say Damn all the Tahoes, Denalis, Saabs, Audis, X5s, and AWD Chrysler Town & Countrys, I'm taking the Prelude Skiing. Thanks to a wonderful Hanukkah present from my girlfriend (she bought me Thule Bars with ski and bike attachments), the Prelude is ready to take on the slopes. The bars took a while to put on, but now taking thm on and off will be somewhat simpler. The only downside is that I can't open my sunroof because of the wind noise, so I can survive without it for a few weeks:) My girlfriend and I are going skiing in the Pocono Mountains (Pennsylvania)for a few days for New Year's. Between skiing and biking, I feel like we lead the active lifestyle coveted by the SUV marketers... NEVER...HA HA HA HA!
Merry Xmas Everybody!