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Acura CL, Coupe
#632 of 1965 Jettson
Aug 19, 2001 (8:42 am)
One of my neighbors went to look at a CL yesterday in northern California and told me he overheard a girl trading in her near-new gold Accord EXV6 coupe.
I'm looking at many new cars in a wide price range. I was considering 2002 models of the VW Passat GLX, BMW 325i, Toyota Camry XLE V6, Acura CL/TL, Nissan Altima 3.5 SE and even the Accord EXV6 coupe. I generally prefer sedans, but for the Accord, I prefer the looks of the coupe.
If I get a TL, I will get get a base model with navigation. I do not like the Bose systems in the Acuras though and I am deciding whether navigation or a great sounding stereo is more important.
I can take an Accord EXV6 to GoodGuys and have them replace the front speakers with some high-quality Boston or Polk Audios, and add a subwoofer and an amp and I would have great sound, but the Bose system in the Acuras are more difficult to upgrade. Some stereo shops won't touch it at all.
I can order a 2002 325i and get a great Harmon Kardon stereo system AND navigation, but for around $35K plus tax.
I looked at a 2002 Camry SE V6, but it was outrageously priced at over $30K with leather, JBL stereo, moonroof and navigation and that is with no auto temp climate control! I am not going to spend more on a Camry than I could get a TL for.
#633 of 1965 fun with lexus and acura
Aug 19, 2001 (10:16 am)
When I test-drove the RSX-S, a salesguy asked what else I was looking at and I just said, "eh, IS300" and he said, "well, you know, we've had two IS300s traded in for the CL-S lately... and they were brand new..."
Yesterday at the Lexus dealer I got, "well, the Acura is a nice car but you know what, I've had two people trade in CL-Ss, brand new, and you gotta wonder."
I love comparison shopping.
Aug 19, 2001 (2:17 pm)
My friend and her husband just bought the TL-S with navigation, and they love it. I splurged on the nav system as well, and it is truly incredible.
I am a little disappointed in the sound system, I always thought Bose was one of the best, but to me it doesn't sound any better (maybe not even quite as good) as the sound system in the Accord Coupe.
It sounds like you have a lot to choose from, but if you like a little fun while driving, stay away from the Accord Coupe...it just isn't an exciting car to drive.
#635 of 1965 Sound - s852 & jettson
Aug 19, 2001 (4:56 pm)
The sound system in the CL and TL are both substandard for cars of this class, despite the Bose nametag. On acura-cl.com, the forum posters usually refer to it as "Bloze".
It's not that difficult to upgrade, despite what you may have heard. My wife is happy with her CL sound, but I am getting a TL-s shortly, and I will definitely have to upgrade. The head unit is fine. It is the Bose amp and speakers, which work in tandem, that need replacement. I expect to pay around $500 for everything, which I will install myself.
BTW, I think CL's are priced to move in Northern Cal. We got ours for a few dollars BELOW invoice, plus free wheel locks, splash guards and logo mats. They're practically giving them away.
Aug 19, 2001 (7:20 pm)
I have no doubt I could have gotten a CL-S for at or about invoice if I wasn't trading in my Accord Coupe, but they had to increase the price a couple hundred over invoice in order to pay me what they did for the Accord. That was ok by me!
Plus, I got wheel locks, splash gaurds and logo mats too. (I think everyone gets that...my friends with the TL got the same add-ons).
Congrats on your new purchase! Did you get the CL Type-S with navigation? What color?
Aug 19, 2001 (10:22 pm)
Just a plain ole Silver CL. She should've gotten NAV. She needs it! (Don't tell her I said that.) She didn't need the extra power or firmer suspension of the S. We both prefer the leather on the non-S types, as well.
However, the perforated seats won't keep me from getting a TL-S. I want the extra 35HP, even though I don't feel any difference, quite frankly. I just want to know it's there. I'll slap in a K&N air filter, which'll give it another 10 or so HP. And, I'm getting the NAV. I don't really need it that much, but it looks cool.
I just hope I can get as good a deal on the TL. They're much more popular than the CL, so I may have to pull teeth.
#638 of 1965 mirror obstructs view
Aug 20, 2001 (10:27 pm)
I love the Acura CL (not type S), but found that the mirror is extra wide and is positioned so that it is in my direct line of sight (instead of the road that is...) Evidentally the driver sits pretty low relative to the mirror in this car. In my current Honda Accord, my line of sight is much higher than the mirrors. Anyway, the mirror and the support column together make for a very big blind spot that caused me near-problems twice in a relatively short road test. Heard on another board of someone's 5'4" wife having a problem with this too, but I'm 5'6" and have a long torso, so am closer in torso height to someone that's 6'x". If I try to move the seat up to see over the mirror, I run into the roof. Has anyone else experienced this, and is there any info out there as to whether Acura plans to deal with this on their next re-design? (When is the next re-design?) Is it a problem on the previous body style (e.g. 98 CL 3.0)? If not, that might be a good alternative.
Aug 20, 2001 (10:33 pm)
It's not too bad at all, compared to my Impala. The OnStar/Mirror is HUGE and placed to low on the windshield. I don't have a problem in our CL.
Aug 21, 2001 (6:41 am)
there were some people that were selected for a test drive of a manual cl-s. it wasn't production ready and they stated it looked like it was an auto that was converted to manual for the test (there is a hand brake now).
i think it is viable for them to make it and they know it...because this will probably be the same 6spd in the next accord cpe (the one that is supposed to replace the prelude).
#641 of 1965 garypen...
Aug 21, 2001 (6:43 am)
You will love the NAV system. When my husband and I took the CL-S out for a test drive, he couldn't take his eyes off it. Fortunately, I was driving, not him
You probably already know this, but besides mapping directions, you can find places of interest, restaurants, sports complexes, etc...
It is so cool. Once you map directions, if you take a wrong turn, it automatically re-calculates directions based upon your new location. You cannot get lost!
I'm interested in your reference to the K&N air filter. Can you actually increase the HP with an air filter? (Obviously I am a newbee when it comes to the innards of a car.) Is there somewhere online I find out more info about this?