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#603 of 1965 will there or won't there?
Aug 15, 2001 (5:50 pm)
I was at an Acura dealer today and the subject came up about a 6 speed manual for the CL. The salesman told me he had expected it but the new 2002 brochure does not list it as a choice. He claims there will be no manual for 2002. Does anyone know what the status of that choice is? Will there be a manual.? Someone back in July stated that a dealer in Cinn. had order codes for it. (this was on acura-cl.com).
Aug 15, 2001 (6:59 pm)
the 2001 brochure didn't have the blue exterior color for the cl type s...but there is now a blue available for the type-s.
dealer's guesses are probably less accurate than ours...most aren't enthusiasts, they just sell cars. and it's surprising that they don't know much about the cars they DO have.
my dealer (worked for the dealership for 2 years) told me i have exxon headlights (being sarcastic, i said, "so they offer gas AND headlights now?", and he actually said, "yes.")and the strut tower bar was to prevent the engine from entering the passenger compartment during a crash (so i asked, "if i need to depend on this bar during a crash, why don't most cars have this standard?" and he said, "because it's a special metal.").
Aug 15, 2001 (8:23 pm)
hahaha that's hilarious... especially since I've been following the Honda Accord Coupe post where a car broker claims to have much more knowledge than anyone posting messages there BECAUSE he sells cars!
#606 of 1965 yes they are mostly idiots.
Aug 16, 2001 (4:24 am)
I like the "special metal" for the strut tower bar. They must bring that salesman out only for special promotions. I have tested a number of new vehicles and almost always a manual trans. model. Its amazing how every salesperson I have dealt with ALL claim to drive manuals just like me. They are all my buddies. Gives me a warm cozy feeling. I'll take two!!!
Aug 16, 2001 (7:13 am)
The key is to do all your research online, take test drives, and only use the salesman as the person to order the car from.
It's kind of like going to a restaurant. Check out the menu, ask others that have eaten there, be familiar with the type of food they serve, and you only need the waitress to place the order with.
So, a car salesman is basically a waitress with a tie.
Aug 16, 2001 (12:24 pm)
I saw a new Type S at my office building... too bad it was a TL Actually, I've seen more TL Type S around here than I have another CL Type S.... what's up with that? They are so hot off the lot that you can't find one to test drive without an appointment.. shesss
#609 of 1965 coupe vs. sedans...
Aug 16, 2001 (4:21 pm)
a sedan will probably always sell better than it's coupe counterpart, especially at $25k+ ranges.
it's just that there are more people out there that care more about practicability, or if not, the potential that htey'll need it later (my grandma wanted me to get the tl 'cuz i'll have a family soon...I HAVE AT LEAST 5 YEARS OF FREEDOM LEFT!)
i don't think that's a bad thing though, it just makes luxury coupes more exlusive (clk will always be more exclusive than a c-class, especially last generations c, mb's cl will always be more exclusive than the s-class, volvo's c70 will always be more exlusive than the s80 or whatever model it was based on, lex's sc will always be exlusive to pretty much their entire line, and acura's cl will always be more exlusive than the tl).
i think the least exclusive from it's sedan counterpart would be the 3-series, but i'm sure the sedan still outsells the coupe.
and from "exclusive", i mean "seen less often".
#610 of 1965 No knowledge of 6 speed.
Aug 16, 2001 (4:40 pm)
I guess information about the new 6 speed CL is not out there. No one replied to my post. I'm starting to get depressed. The RSX has such an outstanding manual trans (drive either the 5 or 6 speed and you will know what I mean). Why can't this be done in a somewhat bigger car? I don't get it.
Aug 16, 2001 (4:47 pm)
If the RSX is made in Japan, that might be part of the reason. As you know, the CL/TL is made in the USA. There is probably some re-tooling and training involved.
No doubt it will come along at some point, just as an S Type TL did. There is obvious demand for it.
Aug 16, 2001 (5:19 pm)
If I'm not mistaken, developing a manual reliable transmission for a car with a lot of torque and HP takes some engineering know-how. The CL-S/TL-S are pretty much the most powerful automobiles Honda has produced outside of the NSX, so it may require some effort on their part to produce a reliable manual tranny that can be mass-produced...