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Acura CL, Coupe
#1571 of 1965 Re to fastdriver.
Apr 29, 2003 (11:02 am)
Thanks fastdriver, I'll keep that in mind & stay away from pot-holes.
I live in Fort Worth TX & we get hail-storms during spring season. Unfortunately after I had the car for the weekend, I found a couple of spots where hail might have hit the car. I called the dealership, they were a bit nervous & offered me another replacement, I said OK & I picked out another one & returned the one I had. I have a feeling that many of those cars had been hit, & if the damage was somewhat minor, the dealer would get it fixed & sell it as new.
Other than that, I like the car. Car & Driver did a road test on this back in July 2002 edition, the 0-60 on Acura CL-S was 5.8 sec, almost a tie with BMW (can't recall series), top speed was rated around 149 mph.
#1572 of 1965 New 6 speed at my dealer
Apr 30, 2003 (5:57 pm)
I'm thinking of buying a 6 speed. I really liked the one I test drove. I was able to control the "grabby" clutch when shifting to 2nd by hesitating slightly in the middle when raising my clutch foot. Should become 2nd nature in a while.
But I'm considering a 2004 Subaru Impreza, too (Sport Wagon for practicality). Two very different cars. Two very different ideas, but one goes about as fast as the other. The Subaru is more nimble, practical, fun to drive. But the CL-S 6MT made me smile when I sat in it. I was seduced by the amenities, especially the perforated leather. It reminded me of my BMW 633csi (1980), but much better. I think I can get price down to at least invoice, maybe lower? What about resale value? Should I be concerned there?
#1573 of 1965 Squeaky front passenger seat
May 02, 2003 (9:50 pm)
My front passenger seat has developed an annoying squeak. Seems to emanate from the seatback hinge 'cause if I reach over and put pressure on the seatback much of the squeak goes away. Anyone has experienced something similar?
#1574 of 1965 Re to bhroberts
May 03, 2003 (7:00 am)
bhroberts: I have heard that Subaru(s) have low end torque problem. For example if you are on a small hill, you would need higher rpm to climb in a Subaru. I have had Nissans in the past, trany would not shift, the speed would stay the same without any drop in the rpm on a small climb. Acura's motor is similar to Nissan in this respect, its got a good low-end grunt. Toyotas are no-good in climb either, had a V6 Tacoma, even the wind would disrupt the cruise at 60 mph on top gear.
May 03, 2003 (8:03 am)
Thanks, we do have lots of hills here in Pittsburgh. So low end torque is important. On the other hand, we also get snow, so all-wheel-drive would be helpful. I'll remember that when I go to negotiate for my new CL.
#1577 of 1965 Disappointed in manual 6spd.
May 15, 2003 (4:04 pm)
I wanted to ask other CL owners, I am currently in the market for a new car, what they think of the 6spd manual. I test drove a CL and a TSX. I hated the clutch in the CL and thought the extra grear was a waste. I have driven manuals for 35 years and won't own anything else. I got on the freeway and was easily up to 70 in 4th. I just shifted into 6th bypassing 5th. For most everyday driving 6 gears is impractical. I would prefer to have a higher topend to reduce RPM on the freeway. They just seemed to cram another gear in there that has no purpose. Needless to say I am unimpressed with the gearing on the CL and will be looking elsewhere for a practical 5 speed. I wondered what others who own 6speeds and have driven them for a while think. My impression is that they are more of a marketing technique than something I really need.
May 15, 2003 (4:58 pm)
I generally think the extra cog is not really necessary for high-torque, V6s and V8s. It's probably more for marketing bragging rights. They are very beneficial for cars such as the RSX and Preludes though.
May 16, 2003 (6:12 am)
Headwind - I too have been driving manual-transmission cars for many years (over 20), including a 5-speed Legend. IMO, the advantage of the 6-speed transmission is not apparent during high-speed cruising or acceleration. The extra cog allows tighter spacing between the lower gear ratios. This is very beneficial if you use the engine for braking by down shifting. The other advantage is that the engine's RPM is easy to control. In other words, regardless of your speed, the RPM can be kept high enough to tap into the engine's horsepower and torque band. Once you get used to the 6 speeds you'll wonder how you did without them.Incidentally, the RPM at 80 MPH is around 2900.
P.S. The clutch does have a small degree of travel to control engagement/disengagement but I've gotten use to it. Really no big deal.
May 16, 2003 (12:30 pm)
I own a 6 speed and beg to differ. 6th in the CL is considerably taller than say the 5 speed 330i. And is taller than 6th in the G35 Sedan or Coupe. Its also considerably taller than the 5 speed Altima V-6. Its way taller than the Audi A4 1.8T. Do the spreadsheet math and this is readily apparent. At 75 mph I am at 2,600 rpm. Quite tall be manual standards. By the way just for completeness, the new Saab 9-3 6 speed 6th is even taller than the CL-S