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Acura CL, Coupe
Feb 01, 2003 (2:28 am)
Hello room,
I just wanted to ask a question. I have a friend in the market for a newer car under $25K. He is looking at a 2002 Nissan Maxima SE with leather pack, auto, sunroof, bose. He has been cross shopping other cars. So far he has came up with a Linc L.S. V8, a 2001 Acura CL coupe Type S(asking $20,900 for the CL), and a 2000 BMW 325i sedan. All cars have between 20-30K miles on them, except the BMW, it has 40K. All except the Maxima and Acura(it's at a dodge used car lot) come with a certified pre own warrenty. The big selling point for the L.S. is 3.9% intrest rate up to 60 months. The Maxima is the cheapest out of the group at $ 20K. A lot of car for the money, except it doesn't have a pre own cert warrenty, and it's up at 36K. Out of all of the cars, we would just like some imput from the smart people on edmunds. Love to hear any comments.
Ben
#1483 of 1965 Car Shopping
by mjc440
Feb 01, 2003 (6:56 pm)
Just my opinion:
You didn't list the prices of the LS or 325i, but if the Maxima's $20,000 and the Type S is $20,900, I'd pay the extra $900 for the Type S - it has a little more power, is sportier, and is a "luxury" make.
When compared to the competition by car magazines, the LS usually fares last. It's too bad because, I've always liked the looks of the LS (the V8 is also a plus)
The 325i is probably the best all around car (assuming RWD is OK in your friend's climate), but they're also pricey.
#1484 of 1965 Foglights - 2002 vs 2003
by mjc440
Feb 01, 2003 (7:09 pm)
Does anyone out there know why Acura pulled the foglights from the 2003 CL? The 2001-02 CLs had foglights - the 2003 has just a blank space there. The 2003 TL still has them.
Feb 02, 2003 (8:13 am)
The lights you are referring to are NOT fog lights. They are nothing but small insignificant marker lights. The CL and CL-S do not have fog lights. They were probably removed for 2003 because they did nothing but look "yellow-ish" compared to the pure white headlamps.
The TL has foglights but not the CL. Lee in Miami
Feb 02, 2003 (9:50 am)
IMHO, the 03 CL front end looks much better without them. The 03 version with less chrome looks much more sporty and aggressive. Well at least in the darker colors. (Black, Anthro, Blue and Red)
Feb 03, 2003 (3:39 pm)
climatecontrol, I'm in a similar situation. But before anything else, Acura has a national APR promo of 4.9%/5 years for pre-owneds. It's just roughly $6/month more over a 3.9% APR - easily overcome when negotiating at purchase prime-time (meaning, month-end).
Over the model options you mentioned, for me it would be a toss-up between the BMW 3-series (if automatic) and the CL. The Bimmers are supposed to be more expensive to maintain but what's going against the CL is its rumored phase-out, which could depress its resale value and hence its Total Cost to Own.
The Maxima has rear beam suspension along with its unfavorable perceptions; I would rank this car 3rd. And the Lincoln LS, one of the better conceived American cars, would be a last choice.
Feb 03, 2003 (6:10 pm)
Alarmpro & JoeandCarol2 -
You're right, I dug up an '02 CL brochure and there's no mention of foglights. Like you said they're not foglights but parking lights. I've always wondered why those lights were yellowish and not at all bright.
Thanks.
#1489 of 1965 CL in 04????
by leekva
Feb 04, 2003 (6:22 am)
I'm in the near future (1 month or so) I intend on purchasing the 03 CL-S. Is the C-S going to be available in 04? Can't find any info on the 04 CL-S, but can find info on the 04 TL. Anybody in the know?
Feb 06, 2003 (1:55 am)
I don't think they are even parking lights 'cause when you turn the lights on to parking lights, those don't even come on. My service manager calls them exactly as alarmpro did -- markers. Just what they are supposed to do, I don't know! I agree they are useless.
#1491 of 1965 shehzad -- TL transmission problem
by massbob
Feb 06, 2003 (5:47 am)
I am interested in whether Shehzad ever received a response to his question about the transmission problems, particularly whether the problem is only for those built before May, 2002? Also, shehzad, did you purchase one?