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#1309 of 1965 2003 CL-S Availability by rjbecker2
Aug 08, 2002 (11:42 am)
Hi, everyone:This is my first posting, and I'd be grateful for any knowledge on this issue. I'll be leasing a new car in December 2002 (that's when I have to hand in my old leased car). Normally, that's the best time to get a new car, in my case the week of Christmas. But since Acura CL (and TL) will be changed for 2004, and become available in the spring of 2003, I was wondering about the availability of the 2003 CL-S this December. In other words, will Acura stop producing the 2003 coupe soon, with consequent reduction of availability when I'm ready to lease?
Thanks for any advice.
RJ
#1312 of 1965 tomer26 by nyccarguy
Aug 13, 2002 (6:23 am)
if you check out acura-cl.com & acura-tl.com, you'll notice that you're not alone.#1313 of 1965 CL Type S 6 speed by kp40m
Aug 14, 2002 (2:15 pm)
Anyone else driven a 2003 CL-S with the manual? I've driven two (at different dealers) and can only conclude that this car has quality control problems. The first one I drove had a clutch that engaged too soon (my opinion, but one that I've read in another review) and the shifting was very notchy. The second, had a clutch that engaged later and the shifting was much soother. However, the 2nd had the minor problem with the armrest cover not staying latched. This is a known problem so why aren't these fixed before leaving the factory or why isn't the dealer fixing this when they first get the car. It's embarassing for a car of this caliber to be exibiting these QC issues. I'm not a CL basher. I like this car but as these are my first experiences with Acura quality, I'm coming away less than impressed.#1314 of 1965 Acura quality by garypen
Aug 14, 2002 (3:01 pm)
We've had our 2001 CL for over a year, and the only problem has been the moonroof rattle/squeak. The armrest cover has never been a problem. Is it a known problem? The moonroof is, and they issued a TSB, which our dealer utilized in his fix, which was perfect, BTW.As an addendum to the dealer fix, the day after the repair we noticed the rear bumper cover was scuffed. Since the dealer's service dept was the likely reason for the scuffs, they agreed, insisted actually, that they pay to have the bumper repainted. That's customer service!
I have no problem with Acura/Honda quality at all, especially compared to my 2001 Chevy, and especially for the price ($26K).
One area that can stand improvement, though, is the thickness of the sheet metal, and the quality/durability of their paint.
#1315 of 1965 kp40m- by fastdriver
Aug 14, 2002 (5:55 pm)
kp40m-
2001 CL-S, 17 months old and 17,700+ miles and not ONE problem. You are the FIRST one to mention an armrest problem. Never heard of this one. As for the 6-speed- never drove one. Not interested in shifting. The automatic is fine and fast enough for me. This is the best car I have ever owned! Love the "roar/rumble" of the dual exhausts when you floor it and leave everyone in the dust.
If you question Acura quality, go check out some Chrysler products. Better yet, ask people that you see in parking lots that have a DC product. See what they say. Better yet. Go to http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov and check out the Technical Service Bulletins for DC products. Go back a few years. You'll see the SAME problems listed year, after year, after year! They are slow learners for sure
You'll come RUNNING back to Acura! 
))
fastdriver
#1316 of 1965 fastdriver by garypen
Aug 14, 2002 (10:06 pm)
Not even the noisy moonroof? I thought everyone got that one.#1318 of 1965 CL-S 6-speed - attention kp40m by mapman1138
Aug 15, 2002 (9:02 am)
I've been driving one since March, and have put about 7000 very happy miles on it. Mine has a clutch with very rapid take-up, just "off the floor", it grabs. This took me a few miles to adjust to, but now whenever I drive my wifes CR-V, I find that clutch to be a real pain to get used to - grabbing near the top of its travel.I find the shifter to be typical Honda - very smooth and positive. If anything, the shift effort might be a bit too light. I don't find it to be notchy, although I can on occasion "get lost" in the gears. I think that a 5-speed probably would've been fine for the job, as the 3.2 liter motor has a very broad torque band.
As far as build quality goes - I've seen no flaws yet, and only one design issue: the fuel filler release can sometimes be balky.
If I could change anything, I'd make the car RWD, firm up the supension a bit, and trim off some of the excess length & weight. Minor quibbles, really, as the car has been everything that I expected from it.
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