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#559 of 4340 Tires by karl1973 Aug 15, 2000 (6:41 pm)
The Michelins on my Miata were replaced with Toyos T1-S about 2 months ago. That was after about 23k miles. There were still considerable threads left on them, but wet weather performance was getting scary. For the record, I don't drive like a maniac in the wet, but the tires were hydroplaning like crazy. There were some people who have no problem with the OEM Michelins, and then there are others who feel like they were terrible wet weather tires. Granted they are "high performance" tires, but the new Toyos are much better in wet weather.
#560 of 4340 by locke2c Aug 15, 2000 (7:08 pm)
I despise the Michelin Pilot SX-GT. There are some folks that just love them though. Even if you love them, no way should you buy another set at $140 or so each. There are many better tires for half as much, or less. -Colin
#561 of 4340 Pilot's by zaq Aug 16, 2000 (3:10 pm)
I would proudly stand up as one of the many that detest the SX-GT's... The miata is no torque dripping muscle car but in the wet you can light up the rear end all the way into third gear. If those things even hint at lasting 20,000 miles I'll be on new rubber next year, worn or not. Since I've only put 7,000 miles on my car in 13 months... I don't relish another two years on these hockey pucks.
#562 of 4340 Michelin tire costs by pinecrestjim Aug 16, 2000 (8:15 pm)
If I spec'ed the right size, Sears was advertising the Michelin Pilot tires at $79.99 ea. this past Saturday in S. FLA. What's so wrong with the Pilots? I've always run Michelins (except for the stock tires) and have never had any problems with any of their tires. Admittedly, all my previous vehicles were 4 dr. land yachts. Then, too, I don't plan to do any racing. Hopefully not related to the Pilots on my '00SE, I had a 62+mph vibration which I thought was due to balancing problems. The local dealer checked the setup, told me the tire pressures were all wrong, corrected same and gave the car back to me. That was 5 weeks ago. Last night I checked the pressures and found all 4 at 20psi! Needless to say, they're back up to 26 as per Mazda specs. I hope the vibration hasn't returned. One thing I cannot live with is tire vibration! Jim M.
#563 of 4340 26 PSI? by hugobecker Aug 17, 2000 (1:32 am)
I'm running the Pilots 32 PSI F/R (00 LS). One thing about the Pilots, they can't be as bad as the Firerocks I had on another car.
#564 of 4340 Bought one by eo3 Aug 17, 2000 (8:58 am)
Just bought a 2000 Miata Evolution Orange Base with the suspension package. While you didn't know it at the time, all of your comments assisted me in getting a great sports car at an incredible price. Thank you.
#565 of 4340 Michelins by karl1973 Aug 17, 2000 (11:33 am)
Well, these were the Michelins with about 20k miles. I was going back home in a rainstorm and I could feel the car hydroplaning. Granted, they were not new, but there were plenty of threads left (about 1/8" before reaching the wear indicator). And there are more than a few people who have spun out under wet road condition if not being careful when taking corners. Almost same condition (huge rainstorm, so heavy it was difficult seeing cars on the road), and this time I have the new Toyos T1-S, and I had no problem with hydroplaning at all (I could go about 65mph and no handling problem on the highway.) These are just my experiences, some people have better luck with the Michelins in the rain.
#566 of 4340 by locke2c Aug 17, 2000 (1:49 pm)
I think they're pretty slippery in the rain for a modern summer performance tire. This is at nearly full tread depth and 4000 miles. -Colin
#567 of 4340 Wet Pilots by zaq Aug 17, 2000 (3:40 pm)
No real complaints in the dry. There are better tires, they do however cost more. In the wet, they are terrible. In a normal traffic start I can feel the rear end get loose. If you try the rear will slip through 1st and second if you just bury the throttle. If they give up that much grip under power, you can bet I'm not flying around corners. But I have to admit, kicking the rear end out at 15 MPH in the wet like you're a 16 year old lead-foot in a Viper has its merits. To back up Colin, I've noticed their poor wet performance from around 1000 to 7000 miles.
#568 of 4340 Pilots by WarpDrive Aug 17, 2000 (6:11 pm)
Wow, a lot of negative buzz about those Pilots. I won't disagree with those more "experienced" users here but if these are bad tires, I can't wait to try to some *good* tires because I find the Pilots very usable. The dry handling is excellent and very progressive. I find the wet performance more than acceptable at 6000 miles compared to Yokohama 509 (which slide like crazy) and Dunlop SP8000 (very good). Given all the negative buzz, there's little chance I will buy the Pilots again especially given their sky-high price. If I can get better performance for less price, than bring it on!

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