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#556 of 4340 more on 60% - 90% by pinecrestjim Aug 13, 2000 (12:38 pm)
Pure_evil probably read that comment here in Edmunds under the 2000 Miata reviewer's comments, which were... "In our opinion, you can utilize 90 percent of the Miata's abilities under normal driving conditions, while a BMW Z3 2.8 driver is lucky to experience 60 percent of that car's potential most of the time. From this perspective, the Miata is a better value and the reason why it continues to be on Edmunds.com's Most Wanted list." I was comparing the two vehicles myself before buying the '00SE. I drove both - the Z3 before the Miata. There was no hesitation for me afterwards. I'll admit that the BMW curves (and badge) look good, and the car definitely will outrun the Miata on a straight track, but the difference in cost between the two vehicles for one looking for some weekend fun just could not be justified. I'm most satisfied with my decision.
#557 of 4340 % of ability cont'd by freddy_k Aug 14, 2000 (4:56 pm)
The 90% must be derived from the regular Miata. The upgraded suspension and larger rims has a much higher limit then the base model. The beauty of this is that you hava a choice when you buy the car, something fun, where end performance soesn't matter as long as you can have a blast at relatively legal speeds, or something you can race and really perform in.
#558 of 4340 by locke2c Aug 14, 2000 (10:20 pm)
Anyone driving to 90% of their own or the car's ability (two separate measures, the former being lower 95% of the time) on public streets is a fool. Especially in a miata, the limits are very high once you get rid of the stock dogmeat tires. -Colin
#559 of 4340 Tires by karl1973 Aug 15, 2000 (6:41 pm)
The Michelins on my Miata were replaced with Toyos T1-S about 2 months ago. That was after about 23k miles. There were still considerable threads left on them, but wet weather performance was getting scary. For the record, I don't drive like a maniac in the wet, but the tires were hydroplaning like crazy. There were some people who have no problem with the OEM Michelins, and then there are others who feel like they were terrible wet weather tires. Granted they are "high performance" tires, but the new Toyos are much better in wet weather.
#560 of 4340 by locke2c Aug 15, 2000 (7:08 pm)
I despise the Michelin Pilot SX-GT. There are some folks that just love them though. Even if you love them, no way should you buy another set at $140 or so each. There are many better tires for half as much, or less. -Colin
#561 of 4340 Pilot's by zaq Aug 16, 2000 (3:10 pm)
I would proudly stand up as one of the many that detest the SX-GT's... The miata is no torque dripping muscle car but in the wet you can light up the rear end all the way into third gear. If those things even hint at lasting 20,000 miles I'll be on new rubber next year, worn or not. Since I've only put 7,000 miles on my car in 13 months... I don't relish another two years on these hockey pucks.
#562 of 4340 Michelin tire costs by pinecrestjim Aug 16, 2000 (8:15 pm)
If I spec'ed the right size, Sears was advertising the Michelin Pilot tires at $79.99 ea. this past Saturday in S. FLA. What's so wrong with the Pilots? I've always run Michelins (except for the stock tires) and have never had any problems with any of their tires. Admittedly, all my previous vehicles were 4 dr. land yachts. Then, too, I don't plan to do any racing. Hopefully not related to the Pilots on my '00SE, I had a 62+mph vibration which I thought was due to balancing problems. The local dealer checked the setup, told me the tire pressures were all wrong, corrected same and gave the car back to me. That was 5 weeks ago. Last night I checked the pressures and found all 4 at 20psi! Needless to say, they're back up to 26 as per Mazda specs. I hope the vibration hasn't returned. One thing I cannot live with is tire vibration! Jim M.
#563 of 4340 26 PSI? by hugobecker Aug 17, 2000 (1:32 am)
I'm running the Pilots 32 PSI F/R (00 LS). One thing about the Pilots, they can't be as bad as the Firerocks I had on another car.
#564 of 4340 Bought one by eo3 Aug 17, 2000 (8:58 am)
Just bought a 2000 Miata Evolution Orange Base with the suspension package. While you didn't know it at the time, all of your comments assisted me in getting a great sports car at an incredible price. Thank you.
#565 of 4340 Michelins by karl1973 Aug 17, 2000 (11:33 am)
Well, these were the Michelins with about 20k miles. I was going back home in a rainstorm and I could feel the car hydroplaning. Granted, they were not new, but there were plenty of threads left (about 1/8" before reaching the wear indicator). And there are more than a few people who have spun out under wet road condition if not being careful when taking corners. Almost same condition (huge rainstorm, so heavy it was difficult seeing cars on the road), and this time I have the new Toyos T1-S, and I had no problem with hydroplaning at all (I could go about 65mph and no handling problem on the highway.) These are just my experiences, some people have better luck with the Michelins in the rain.

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