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#542 of 4340 by Mr_Shiftright HOST Aug 11, 2000 (1:27 am)
Gentlemen, genglemen,....this topic is about Miatas....so unless you want to be writing in disappearing ink, please stick to the discussion of this wonderful car and enjoy yourselves. The Host
#543 of 4340 by pure_evil Aug 11, 2000 (3:05 am)
Ok, I'll behave now. Kernick, I noticed on your profile that you were in the market for a Firebird. I'm actually in the market for a Camaro Z28. I find it interesting that you have narrowed down your decision to two cars (I'm assuming) that seem so different. I view the Firebird/Camaro as falling under the typical American muscle car formula--get as much bang for the buck. In the case of the F-Bodies, you're basically buying an engine, so elements such as interior design/quality suffers. The Miata, on the other hand, has a completely different formula. For me personally, I'm willing to skimp on interior quality in order to get the LS1 Corvette engine (detuned of course). My first choice in cars would be a Corvette, but I can't afford one, so I'm getting the next best thing. I'm just curious how you narrowed your decision down to these two cars. What features are you looking for in your next car?
#544 of 4340 evil one by blackcurrant Aug 11, 2000 (4:40 am)
drive 'em. it'll jump right out at you. i've had the f-bodies, now i'd like a miata. i'm sure i'll end up with another f-body someday....
#545 of 4340 pure-evil by freddy_k Aug 11, 2000 (2:43 pm)
Tell me what you expect people to think when you march right on into a rather friendly topic and start blabbering on about how all guy Miata fans are Gay, giving stupid, useless, and completely ignorant opinions about the Miata that have nothing at all to do with the car. Fbodies and Miatas are two different worlds, and two completely different kinds of fun. None is better then the other, even if the Fbodies tend to come with a dose of uneccesary attitude.
#546 of 4340 I've calmed down now by kernick Aug 11, 2000 (4:35 pm)
Thank you Mr. Shiftright. Maybe I'm just getting tired of all the stereotypes everyone has. As you can see I have picked up one too - concerning the type of people who drive the older Camaros and Firebirds. I had a '98 Camaro V-6 before and people at work or family, all had the "mid-life" crisis comments. To me it was a good-looking, sporty car at a reasonable price. Now in considering whether to buy a 2001 F-Body and enjoy the "power" fun, or a Miata "toss-around" fun, I'm sitting here picking up on stereotypes. I try and come here to Townhall to hear about people's modifications, maintenance and repairs, or links to next year's models. Pure-Evil: Just thought of a joke: why is a Miata better than a Camaro for picking up chicks? Answer - because if they don't fit in the Miata I would sing that old Polka favorite - "She's too Fat for Me".
#547 of 4340 freddie_k and kernick by pure_evil Aug 11, 2000 (5:25 pm)
Well, freddie_k, I expected people to act as they did. My comments were idiotic, I was just having some fun. I guess I expect people to laugh it off, because I don't have any problem with gays. I live in Hawaii, so when they had the whole thing where they were trying to make gay marriages legal, I totally supported it. So if you were offended, I apologize. Geez, people are so serious! Man, I was rolling reading the responses I was getting! kernick, don't let anyone talk you out of getting what you want by saying you're having a mid-life crisis. One of my bosses is, I would guess in his 60's, and he drives a Corvette! And he has no superiority attitudes or anything. Get what makes you happy. I'm sure a Miata is fun to drive. I would guess it's pretty light, so that would make it feel pretty peppy. For all you Miata owners, I read an article a while back and it said that the Miata uses 90% of its capability in city traffic. The article treated that comment as a positive. Maybe I interpreted it wrong, but I was thinking, that would kind of suck. Is this true?
#548 of 4340 Oh evil one... by hugobecker Aug 12, 2000 (2:12 am)
No a Miata won't use 90% of it's capabilities in city traffic. A Hyundai Accent will though... And there is more to the notion of using 90% of a car's capabilities in traffic than you're picking up on. You need to spend some time with people that really race (not bench racers - or straight liner racers) and glean some knowledge. That's your assignment this week. BTW, you can use up all of an F-body convertible's handling capabilities going over a set of railroad tracks. (Cowl shake? How much can you stand?
#549 of 4340 Drive it... by karl1973 Aug 12, 2000 (12:41 pm)
Have you driven a Miata today? If not, see if any of your friends have one, or go for a test drive and then whip it around some twisty roads. Owning a Miata is not the same as owning an F-body. You won't get the acceleration of an F-body in a Miata (unless you spend extra money and get an FM turbo, which would crank about 200hp at the rear wheels) It is nice to see cars trying to tail me disappear on oon-ramps or off ramps, or trying to keep up on backroads. Oh by the way, if you want an F-body, better go quick, because it won't be around for long.
#550 of 4340 Well throw me a bone, Hugo! by pure_evil Aug 12, 2000 (4:52 pm)
Hugo, what am I not picking up on? I think you're telling me that I did indeed misinterpret the article. Enlighten me! I need to find that article, whatever car it was being compared to (I forgot) used up 60% of its capabilities in city traffic. That's why the comment seemed weird to me. Using my common sense (no comments, please), I figured, well, I'd rather have a car that used up 60% than 90%. But, the article seemed to favor the Miata on this point. So what the hell am I missing, besides a fully functioning brain? And yes Karl1973, point well taken. I wonder what GM is going to replace the F-body with, if anything. Maybe if I don't get it, I'll check into this FM Turbo option. With that package, your Miata must fly! To tell the truth, I have actually been seriously considering a Miata.
#551 of 4340 Ah, the mystery of small bore sports cars... by hugobecker Aug 12, 2000 (5:41 pm)
Seek enlightenment by digging and reading (hate to say it, but do it the hard way like the rest of us schmucks did . I will drop some hints though. Racing is generally done in pretty evenly matched classes. There shouldn't be a huge equipment edge. So where do you get an edge? Don't know if you've ever heard of the Scarab cars (but being a Cheby fan you should be- see http://www.webcom.com/tomkat/scarab/kb33.html ). We had Burt Levy at breakfast this morning (he's written a couple of racing novels, writes a column for Vintage Motorsports magazine, http://www.vintagemotorsport.com/ and mooches drives in race cars). He ran the 'continuation' Scarab last weekend at a fairly tight track. This Scarab, #5 of 3 total, has a 600 HP Chevy small block and disc brakes (the original used drums - huge honking aluminum finned jobs). This is a great car for a fast course like Road America. He said that, on the track he was running, there was only one place he could really use the HP, the rest of the time it felt like he was wrestling a bear in a phone booth. At one point he waved a puny little bathtub (356) Porsche by. (And that paragraph contains another clue.) Sub-assignment, who drove the Meister Brauser sponsered Scarab? BTW, I already have next week's assignment ready. Both yours and mine. I get a Sierra to test drive and then a Z06. You get to tackle defining 'unsprung weight'. (Sorry, can't trade places...

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