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MPG by ateixeira
Sep 13, 2005 (10:38 am)
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My 1.6l average about 27-28mpg. Not bad considering it always, always has the top down. If it's raining or snowing I simply don't drive it at all, I take my Forester.
 
-juice
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Re: Miata Ads [ateixeira] by frank4cars
Sep 13, 2005 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 13, 2005 7:27 am)

Sorry. Meant it tongue-in-cheek. As long as you are recommending something with no fun-to-drive quotient in exchange for mpg, you might as well go all the way.
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Re: Miata Ads [frank4cars] by ateixeira
Sep 13, 2005 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: frank4cars (Sep 13, 2005 10:45 am)

True...I would only replace the Miata with another convertible of some sort, and yes it would have to be fun to drive.
 
The new MX-5 looks plenty efficient, I'm impressed that it got 8mpg better than the Solistice did with C&D. That is a huge difference! And it was quicker.
 
-juice
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Re: MPG [ateixeira] by logic1
Sep 13, 2005 (11:04 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 13, 2005 10:38 am)

I had two more litres - 1.8 - but I had the 6 speed manual *. Like you, I never put the top up. What's the point?
 
*n.b.: While many assume the more gears the better, in my experience, the 5 speed in the base Miata was better than the 6 speed. In my experience, at least, the 6 speed did not help mpgs a bit.
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Re: MPG [logic1] by logic1
Sep 13, 2005 (11:37 am)
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Replying to: logic1 (Sep 13, 2005 11:04 am)

My apologies.
 
The, 'What's the point?' question above can be misconstrued as being rude.
 
I mean only to ask what is the point of driving a convertible with the top up?
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Re: MPG [logic1] by blueguydotcom
Sep 13, 2005 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: logic1 (Sep 13, 2005 11:04 am)

typical mazda...they have some weird objection toward gearing for mileage. My protege got 30 mpg running 70-75mph. Running from sd to arizona my pro 5 speed got 24 mpg. I was only doing 85 but the engine was way up in the stratosphere. Flipside, my old Nissan Stanza would get 30+ in 5th gear running 85 and up.
 
I just read that Mazda delayed the MZ6 because the idiots at Mazda decided to change the gearing away from fuel econmy and toward power in top gear. Totally stupid decision IMHO. One buys a manual to change gears. i'm more than happy to go from 6th to 4th when I need to pass someone and we're only doing 75-80.
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Re: MPG [blueguydotcom] by ateixeira
Sep 13, 2005 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Sep 13, 2005 11:44 am)

Mazda gears them for peak performance, not peak economy. Their motto is zoom-zoom, remember.
 
Besides, Honda and Toyota have deeper pockets, so if they went head-to-head for the fuel economy awards they'd end up losing anyway. They might end up in doom-doom.
 
Plus, if you want peak economy shouldn't you be going a little slower? 55 maybe?
 
-juice
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ate by blueguydotcom
Sep 13, 2005 (4:31 pm)
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Uh, you can have both. Nobody says BMW isn't fun to drive. Their 6th gear is a legit cruising gear. Gears 1-4 (or 5) can be ratioed for performance and make the top gear really tall for relaxed freeway cruising.
 
Remember if someone buys a manual, he's probably inclined to shift. I'm still livid over news that Mazdaspeed6 was delayed so they could make the final drive shorter. As if a turbo 4 cylinder isn't already inclined to get bad mileage!
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Re: Miata Ads [logic1] by m1miata
Sep 13, 2005 (5:07 pm)
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Replying to: logic1 (Sep 13, 2005 10:08 am)

" Were you driving with the top up?
  
I almost never put the top up. I only rarely did better than 20 mpgs in mine. "
:::::::::::END QUOTE::::::::::::::::
Top up or top down, is was not all that different. Most of the runs recording around
27 MPG were with top down. The 30 MPG was freeway, with mostly top up. If you
got only 20 MPG, there was something wrong with the engine. May be in the sensors.
It was really using too much gas. I don't think I could ever get it to go less than 24 to
23.
 
Loren
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Re: MPG [logic1] by m1miata
Sep 13, 2005 (5:26 pm)
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Replying to: logic1 (Sep 13, 2005 11:37 am)

Why drive with a top up?
Oh yeah, easier questions coming my way.
- answers -
1) Keep rain out of car
2) Keep wind out of car
3) Keep heat on the outside of car - cool inside car.
4) Keep heat inside car
5) Keep dust out of car
6) Better gas mileage on freeway - especially when windy
7) Keep sun from burning self
8) Keep items inside car out of sun.
9) P.O. other members in your club when driving that believe it is a top down only car.
10) When washing car, keep in closed position.
11) Keeps cats out of car.
12) Keeps kids out of car.
13) Keeps bird crap out of car.
14) Keeps tree dropping out of car.
15) As requested by passenger, with the long hair.
16) Suggests the car was bought for its handling characteristics, and not drop top.
17) Gives you arm exercise putting it up and down.
18) Just too lazy to put it down this morning
19) Sign at beach said, " topless not allowed "
 
Loren

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