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#4086 of 4340 Re: Picked up a 06 [davidg3] by ryanrec Sep 12, 2005 (10:53 am)
Replying to: davidg3 (Sep 11, 2005 6:40 pm) I would say that 55 miles each way comute should be no problem regarding comfort. I don't know if I would want to drive the car for 4 hours straight, but 55 miles should not be a problem. The radio (7 speaker Bose)is so powerful that you could probably hear it at any speed.
#4087 of 4340 Re: logic [audia8q] by logic1 Sep 12, 2005 (10:57 am)
Replying to: audia8q (Sep 12, 2005 10:43 am) Transmission is wrong.   Aisin engineered the Solstice transmission for the 2.4 litre engine. The Colorado uses a completely different engine, and the gearing ratios on the Colorado is different from the Solstice. Aisin, by the way, makes the manuals for Honda and Mazda.   The rest means nothing for the Solstice's right to claim to be a Roadster.   If you look at the Miata, you will find that it too shares many components with other Mazdas and probably vehicles manufactured by other companies in the Ford family as well.   Some of the list are so meaningless as to garner a big so what. For instance, is there something about air conditioning vents or controls that are Roadster specific? Or gauge clusters? Are brakes any less brakes because they are shared with another vehicle? So, the fog lamps and brake lights are shared. They sure look pretty sharp on the Solstice. They certainly do not look forced or out of place.   The 2.4 litre is shared with other GM vehicles. The version in the Solstice has a different torque and hp curve. Many manufacturers share engines. The question should be is whether the engine is right for the car and transmission. The answer to both appear to be yes with the Solstice.   What makes the Solstice a Roadster is its Kappa frame, which was built from the scratch to base a convertible automobile. Given that every review of the Solstice praises the solid ride and immediate steering responsiveness of the car, it sounds as though the Kappa is a Roadster, through and true.
#4088 of 4340 LOGIC by audia8q Sep 12, 2005 (11:07 am)
ok...maybe the folks at the Pontiac Solstice forum are wrong, but I don't think so...but the real question is   Why would somebody buy the unproven Solstice over the proven Miata?   why take a gamble on an unproven car with GM's historical track record when something as proven and successful as the Miata is available??   Replies to this message: logic1 (Sep 12, 2005 12:23 pm) davidg3 (Sep 12, 2005 1:21 pm)
#4089 of 4340 Re: LOGIC [audia8q] by logic1 Sep 12, 2005 (12:23 pm)
Replying to: audia8q (Sep 12, 2005 11:07 am) I had an NB Miata and was unhappy enough that I sold it, even though I do not have any other car (getting by with a bike and mass transit at present).   I sort of want a new roadster. The Solstice appears to address some of the things I did not like in the Miata.   Now the NC Mia... I mean MX-5 is much changed from the NB Miata. But that suggests a lot of unprovens as well.   In any event, of the three major components for the Solstice, the engine, the transmission, the platform, the first is already on the market and proven, the second is from a well regarded company that makes many sporty manuals, and the third borrows many of its engineering cues from the very proven Corvette. I do not really see the Solstice as being a problem, except that I might have to wait a while to get one.
#4090 of 4340 Styling by ateixeira Sep 12, 2005 (12:26 pm)
That's the main answer, Solistice does look good, and let's face it, American consumers are extremely superficial.   Besides that, there's always the home team advantage, often people will opt for the domestic vs. the import if they like both.   Recycling parts is fine, it's not a bad idea actually to keep costs down. And it doesn't take away from the car at all. Though I wonder if that's partially to blame for the relatively high weight of the Solistice.   -juice
#4091 of 4340 Re: LOGIC [audia8q] by davidg3 Sep 12, 2005 (1:21 pm)
Replying to: audia8q (Sep 12, 2005 11:07 am) For those really excited about their MX-5 prospects, the attractiveness of the Solstice will bring those prices down...
#4092 of 4340 OK another stab at it by m1miata Sep 12, 2005 (2:14 pm)
Was trying to point out in prior post that it makes no difference that Pontiac uses parts from other cars, as Miata has done so in the past. Just used the 1.8 engine as a single example of a part shared by other cars. As far as Ford engineering being bad, so a Mustang is a poor car, well bring on the evidence. The Mustang sales in convertibles, and Soltice sales will in fact put a big dent in Miata MX-5 sales. There are scores of other cars, from the smallest, like the Mini Cooper all the way up to the larger convertibles which siphon sales.   Making a new Miata body style perhaps would not have made a better performing car, but it would go a long way to improve sales. I am afraid that sale could slide to the point that Ford/Mazda gives up on the little road warrior.   Loren Replies to this message: ateixeira (Sep 12, 2005 3:39 pm) davidg3 (Sep 12, 2005 6:17 pm)
#4093 of 4340 Re: OK another stab at it [m1miata] by ateixeira Sep 12, 2005 (3:39 pm)
Replying to: m1miata (Sep 12, 2005 2:14 pm) I believe Mazda will stick with the Miata even with low volumes. It's their halo car, and not a very costly halo car all things considered.   Note how they use the Miata to advertise all the other cars in the lineup...   If they dropped it they'd lose their identity. Sure, they have an RX-8, but most people don't know it exists. Everyone and their mother knows a Miata.   -juice
#4094 of 4340 Re: OK another stab at it [m1miata] by davidg3 Sep 12, 2005 (6:17 pm)
Replying to: m1miata (Sep 12, 2005 2:14 pm) But would anyone be sane and buy one for a 110 mile commute each day, 5/week, 48 per year?
#4095 of 4340 Commuter by m1miata Sep 12, 2005 (7:59 pm)
A commuter car??? I would get a Civic HX, with its 44 MPG or more capability. Yeah, that's the ticket.   Now back to MX-5.. I saw an ad which called it the Miata. The name lives!!!

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