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Well, we all know those magazines are a little suspect. Wasn't C&D the magazine that named the Renault Alliance car of the year?? How can you have any credibility after that??? LOL They certainly wouldnt want to upset any of GM's ad dollars... 
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Replying to: audia8q (Sep 06, 2005 8:52 am) You can't even put the Solistice's top down from the driver's seat. -juice |
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I purchased a 06 MX-5 about a week ago. I have a Black Grand Touring 6 speed with the suspension package. It is an absolute blast to drive. The acceleration is about the same as the Mazdaspeed except you don't have to wait for a turbo to kick in. The handling is unbelievable and its not too rough even with the suspension package. I am 6 feet tall and I have no problem with visibility out the front window, which is a change from my 01 model. The car has a very similar feel to my 01 except its a little larger, better handling, brakes, and acceleration. The leather seats are comfortable. The only complaint I have is I am not too fond of all the hard plastic in the interior.
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Replying to: ryanrec (Sep 08, 2005 11:22 am) -juice
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 08, 2005 11:28 am) 
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Sep 06, 2005 8:43 am) Performance wise, the Miata may be better. It has air conditioning standard and a roll bar, yet it looks like a modified puffy sided 1990 Miata, and not as fresh as the Solstice For those going by the numbers, Miata may be the winner. For sales, it will not be the winner. Loren ( former '96 Miata owner )
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Replying to: m1miata (Sep 09, 2005 10:43 pm) totally subjective. in my eyes the miata is simple and classy. the solstice screams pontiac cheapness and bulbousness. Otherwise, folks you are looking at Solstice out selling MX-5 ( formerly called the Miata, which sounds better to me ), at a rate of at least 3:1, and perhaps 5:1 or higher. Uh, the solstice is not an every day driver given the lack of a trunk, bad gas mileage and lousy top mechanism. The mx-5 has 15 years of loyalty. It's akin to all the upstarts taking shots at the 3 series. nobody has put a dent in 3 series sales even with the tl andg35 getting 12k sales a month. It's hard to knock off the king when he has over a decade of loyal followers. Panic should set in and MX-5 should shed around $3K to $4k off stickers in the $24K range. A 26k mx-5 comes with options not even available on a solstice...like lined top, keyless start, xenons, etc. I'll gladly pay 1k extra alone for xenon lights...yes, they're that important to me as driving at night is my favorite time. Look for $20K MX-5s or lower soon. Already exists. That is IF the Pontiacs are not overpriced on side stickers. Both these cars are worth $20K or less. They are fun but all too pricey. $24K - $29K??? Why? both seem to have decent pricing. a fully loaded mx-5 is 27k...that means by next spring I should be able to get one off a lot for at the most 25k. Shrug...seems decent. The MSRP on my last car was 43k. 27k seems downright cheap! BTW, once word gets out about the solstice's mileage and trunk space sales will only go to hardcore people looking for an extra car. the kind of people who can afford extra or weekend cars rarely look at american products unless the nameplate is viper or vette. sorry the solstice after a year or two of success will turn into another mr2 spyder. decent lines but lack of everyday practicality limits the cars appeal to only a few in an already limited niche.. |
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Pontiac has a lot of dealers to help sell them, go ahead and add Saturn dealerships while you're at it. GM will have a hit with it, IMO. They priced it right, question is can GM make a profit at those prices? They already had production delays and top fit/finish issues so don't expect too much quality or reliability. I think people who usually buy imports will stick with the MX-5. -juice |
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One big weak point for the Pontiac is the fact that the car was not designed and built from the ground up as a roadster like the Miata.. It's built with whatever spare parts GM had laying around. It has a GMC truck transmission with the same gear ratios, seats from some other GM car and a long list of other things. Here is a list of a few Miata advantages 400lb lighter better power to weight ratio better fuel economy 25/30 vs 20/28 one hand top operation more cargo space standard ABS and side airbags available 6 speed manual and auto with paddle shifters better turning radius 30.8 vs 35.1 available run flat tires available advanced keyless system better leg room more shoulder room and the big one....a spectacular proven track record. and historical heritage. I'll come up with a few more once I have my morning coffee...
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